President Joe Biden pleaded with Republicans on Wednesday for a fresh infusion of military aid for Ukraine, warning that a victory for Russia over Ukraine would leave Moscow in position to attack NATO allies and could draw U.S. troops into a war.
Biden spoke as the United States planned to announce $175 million in additional Ukraine aid from its dwindling supply of money for Kyiv. He signaled a willingness to make significant changes to U.S. migration policy along the border with Mexico to try to draw Republican support.
“If Putin takes Ukraine, he won’t stop there,” Biden said. Putin will attack a NATO ally, he predicted, and then “we’ll have something that we don’t seek and that we don’t have today: American troops fighting Russian troops,” Biden said.
“We can’t let Putin win,” he said, prompting an angry reaction from Moscow.
Ah, yes, the prospect of another war with US troops going to a country most Americans couldn’t find without google maps is sure to go over well with people.
Where was that sentiment when America was planting military bases all over the world to protect American interests?
You’re asking someone on the Internet why they didnt say anything about America planting military bases the world over in their post WW2 campaign over 50 years ago? Well Id imagine it’d be hard to find them discussing that on lemmy, if that’s where you’re looking for it.
Like I get that the OP you replied to is an idiot but idk where anyone would be bringing that up online.
I really hope that Ukraine doesn’t lose their support. If America has to choose between supporting Ukraine in defending themselves from a Russian invasion, and supporting Israel’s obvious goal of carrying out a genocide, it seems like a no brainer to me…
Just curious, where does the ‘genocide’ come from regarding Israel? The stuff I’ve read usually points a very different picture.
A critical analysis of past Israeli positions and current actions, basically. In brief, Israel refuses any solution that lets the people of Palestine stay, they can’t leave because they have nowhere to go, and Israel’s military policy is that it’s okay to kill them. The easiest path forward for Israel is genocide, and its current actions are congruent with that. (E.g. directing civilians to a place of refuge, and then bombing it.)
Remember, even Germany’s Third Reich didn’t set out to perpetrate a genocide, but circumstances drove them to it.
Remember, even Germany’s Third Reich didn’t set out to perpetrate a genocide, but circumstances drove them to it.
Whaaaa? Mein Kampf was written in 1925. Genocide was planned from before Nazis were even in power.
No circumstances drove them to it.
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To those down voting this person, I really don’t think its called for here. There’s nothing to suggest they’re some troll trying to spread misinformation. The details of this conflict have been kept intentionally vague; coming to a different conclusion doesn’t necessarily imply bad intentions.
Try to remember the down vote isn’t a ‘fuck you’ button. Let’s not be like reddit.
The bombing of innocent civilians in Gaza in order to destroy Hamas is the genocide being referred too. For Israel, it seems killing innocent civilians is a bonus. Israel’s allies, including the US, are starting to get irritated with the fact that Israel is basically completely disregard for civilian life in Gaza. Israel’s response is basically, we need to kill off Hamas because they want genocide of Israel (not certain of the specifics of Hamas’ goals, but I would definitely that they are generally terrorist group that has control of Gaza, and do want to see Israel fall) so killing civilians is collateral damage. The issue though is that Israel has helped prop up Hamas to keep as an enemy that they think they can control, and use the existence of that enemy as a reason to continue to push out Palestinians from their land. This continued harassment of Palestinians pushes them to join Hamas, and drives Hamas’ actions. This is also partly why Israelis are angry at Netanyahu(?) and his administration, he claimed the power is was scooping up domestically, and using it to exert control on Palestinian land, would keep Israel safe. Instead, they’ve had the biggest attack ever with many Israelis dead.
I’m not a war correspondent or anything, so my opinion is based exclusively on reading accounts of the conflict which I consider to be reputable. That said, when you compare the death toll on either side of the conflict – 17,000 dead Palestinians so far, as compared to the 1,200 Israelis killed during Hamas’ Oct 7 incursion – its easy to see why so many experts have concluded that Israel’s intentions go far beyond retaliation against Hamas alone.
And that’s without even mentioning Israels controversial approach to military targets, the lies they’ve been caught in throughout the conflict, and so on.
Hey, not that I have sources and most likely not qualified to talk about this; But aren’t some of the hitpieces on the civilian casualities also been under hamas control?
There’s information on things being a genocide and also other information saying that hamas is using them as human shields?
Personally I don’t know what to think of Israels actions, since I am very confused about the happenings there. I agree on military action on hamas, but at the same civilian casualities should be kept to a minimum. If you have any more info to read?
Just some other points that I’ve read; Hamas vs Israel has been going on forever now, rockets being shot from gaza Hamas siphoning aid funds to buy/create weapons Hamas using headquarters mostly in populated areas, like hospitals to create propaganda?
Any information to counter whatever beliefs I have are more than welcome, I’d rather be educated on the matter. This post might seem pro-israel, but I decided to focus on the war, not Israel, which I do have major issues with.
Waited to reply so I’m not spreading misinformation in active threads lol.
The problem is for the American government the answer is also a no brainer, but they don’t agree with you on the specifics of that no brainer. Israel will always get what it asks for because its a de facto US army base. Look at how the rest of the MIC hamstrings the budget, fails audits, then gets budget increases.
– and “stabilizing element” in the middle east. Israel gets a lot of leeway because they’ve proven they have a capable military, intelligence agency, etc. And they’re not at all squeamish about using them.
You’re probably right. I just wish we didn’t live in a world where innocent human lives are often considered the cost of doing business.
Many of the evils of buisness are hidden in what economists would call ‘externalities’. Which in essence are consequences that you don’t have to pay for. Human cost has been factored in from the begining and named such that it sounds ‘external’ to the system when really it’s part and parcel of it. Something like most of the forbes 500 would not be profitable if they were liable for their own externalities. Buisnesses on every level are subsidized by the taxpayer and the degradation of local resources or environment that should have been for the public.
@MicroWave I agree with President Biden. To let Putin win is to let the Republicans win. That is one thing that absolutely must not be allowed to happen.
@uis Whose bunker is being penetrated? I’m no pacifist. There are legitimate targets.
What choice is there? An old idiot or a criminal dictator trump.
Biden is old, but I’ve never heard anyone who’s actually worked with him call him an idiot.
imagine what that 44 billion could have bought if spent in America on Americans, instead of in Ukraine for Ukrainians…
We have enough money to do both. This spending comes from resources already appropriated for the defense department, and soft power is not something to undervalue.
You could give each American a grand sum of $133. Truly life changing stuff.
You realize how expensive it would have been if the US would have fought a war against Russia themselves? Right now, Ukraine is defeating one of the top enemies of the US for the US.
No, they’re doing it for themselves. The US is just a beneficiary of their efforts.
Poor choice of words by me, but it was exactly my point. Of course they are fighting for themselves, but the US giving Ukraine weapons is the US fighting Russia without risking any of their own troops. It couldn’t get cheaper than this to fight Russia.
