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Sorry Ukraine, Israel gets priority even they though don’t need it.

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They’ve been convinced that funneling as much money to the MIC can win the war in Ukraine even if they don’t have foreign military troops on the ground helping them.

In their minds, it’s literally impossible to lose as long as US taxpayers spend as much money as possible on weapons.

It’ll be funny when they all mysteriously disappear if Ukraine loses, never to admit they were wrong and it’s possible US taxpayers just wasted a bunch of money on a sunk-cost fallacy.

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Meanwhile, Biden has just bypassed congress to send more money to Israel to help them with their genocide.

What the fuck is Biden doing? Israel is rich. They don’t need any money from us at all. If we needed any reminder that neoliberals are conservatives, this is it.

Can European countries come together to fill this void? They are in peril if Ukraine falls to Russia.

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Meanwhile, Biden has just bypassed congress to send more money to Israel to help them with their genocide.

No. He allowed Israel to buy weapons. Nobody likes it but giving weapons for free is completely different than allowing someone to buy weapons.

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On a normal year, we give Israel $4 Billion. That’s in a normal year, without a genocide to support. That’s not a loan. It’s a gift. Year after year.

Whose money do you suppose is being used to “buy” our weapons? Is that really what you would call a “purchase”?

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I referred to your specific statement that Biden just used emergency powers to give Israel money.

That’s not true. But that doesn’t make the rest good.

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In nearly every European election since this year, the local Russia-controlled parties have taken over government (if they weren’t the government already, like in Hungary). This will continue next year, especially in the EU parliament. I wouldn’t hold my breath that any help will come from Europe any time soon.

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I also don’t understand this.

Even if somebody is pro-Israel, come on: they have a powerful military, a working economy, and some nukes for back-up. Let them sort their own fucking shit out.

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The Pentagon should just send the ammunition. Who’s going to stop them? Oh no, the Republicans will sue to have it stopped. Who’s going to enforce the order? Stop fucking around with these traitors.

Edit: Better yet, how about an Executive Order? Something like, “The Russian war of aggression against Ukraine, being a direct threat to the security of our NATO allies and our National Security, I declare that any military, intelligence, and humanitarian resources, whether initially allocated for other purposes or not, may be diverted to aid Ukraine.”

Then Congress can feel free to pass aid to Israel and it can just be diverted.

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The trouble with just ignoring law is that when the guys you don’t agree with are in charge, they now have justification to ignore the laws too.

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They didn’t need or care to manufacture justification under the last president.

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Have they ever cared?

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No, but we need someone too. The war in Ukraine isn’t worth the loss of the rule of law.

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Fair point, though I’d argue it makes it easier for them.

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Ukraine isn’t as profitable as Israel genocoding native Palestinians after all.

Capitalism just follows the money; the justifications and lies the US makes for war are always just excuses to profit the ruling class of capitalist corporations.

I wonder how long it’ll be before people finally realize the US political/economic system is completely broken and needs to be rebuilt from scratch.

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Capitalism just follows the money; the justifications and lies the US makes for war are always just excuses to profit the ruling class of capitalist corporations.

Obviously the ruling class profit from war, but US support of Israel seems to me more about empire than profit. We need allies to justify, enable and support our military presence in this vital region.

Not everything we do is because our society is controlled by greedy bloodsucking parasites. Sometimes we’re just trying to maintain our brutal imperial dominance.

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We need allies to justify, enable and support our military presence in this vital region.

…which is for profit from the oil and other materials in the region. War also lets them divert more of their resources into the military industrial complex. In that sense, the trillions of dollars used in the military during the Afganistan war was a net positive for the military corporations too; human lives be damned.

It all boils down to profit under capitalism.

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