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Sure, I understand that the system failed him, or at least failed someone close to him. But what he’s doing is just generally raging against the leaders and using random excuses to justify causing chaos.

There’s no focus, no message. No way for anybody to respond in any way other than flat out rejection. How can you respond to something like this if when you try, it’s like “okay, I understand this this this, and this. But this one and these three others are unacceptable to us. But then there’s another sixteen that we can talk about. Please give us your side of the story and we can continue from there.” How do you form a conversation with that?

Not to mention that he’s trying to gather people from the widest spectrum he can, each with a different grievance. How do you talk when you have a dozen “I won’t budge on this one thing” when each one thing is something different? Just like the previous convoy, it’s just plain civil disobedience for the sake of letting out steam, no actual attempt at making change.

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The math agenda? What are the conservatives worrying about this week?

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I had a very strange conversation a couple of years ago. It seems that some people think that math is used only as a tool to control the population or something.

We were talking about something that most people would consider pretty innocuous, catch and release fishing. I mentioned that I had recently read an article that claimed that mortality among released fish was still high enough that approximately every second released fish should be counted against your limit because of the percentage of released fish that die of catch-related causes.

That lit the other guy’s hair on fire. “That’s math! You can’t seriously think that math is real? It’s all made up!” (Or words to that effect. Mouth frothing removed to protect the innocent.)

Over the course of the rest of the conversation, I “learned” that math was invented as a tool of oppression. Science uses math to create fake knowledge. Our senses are the only true sources of knowledge.

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They are anti-everything they don’t understand. Unfortunately that’s most things.

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How to control a population 101:

Make them only trust their emotions.

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If they actually followed through with that you’d kind of have to admire it. What else would they have to do away with? All abstract concepts obviously, along with everything they’d been told, read, or imagined. How about theory of mind? Object permanence? Would they be newly surprised by the sunrise every day?

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These are people that literally never grew up.

It’s the 8 year old mentality of ‘math is hard and confusing, I would rather spend the day living in my imaginary world’

What we are seeing now is the temper tantrum that happens when someone challenges them to leave their comfort zone.

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A temper tantrum that goes on for years. At least with children it’s usually over in minutes.

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Math has a known liberal bias.

I expect they’d be upset about arabic numerals if they knew that’s what they’re called.

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Yeah that stood out to me too, I’ve heard of these other dumb things.

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So a bunch of closet pedophiles are organizing another convoy to “save the children” from “groomers” and “pedophiles” which they are projecting on drag queens?

That’s rich.

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Yeah I’d put all these weirdos on a list.

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Yup can’t wait for the inevitable searches of their computers/phones and finding of horrible things.

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There’s a reason they take such an interest in kids. Normal people aren’t lost in daily thought on how strangers are interacting with children in sexual ways. Especially people without their own kids to worry for.

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These people are too stupid to exist holy shit

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And yet my aunt does, in fact, exist. Blows my mind every time I see her. Her beliefs are so stupid I’m fairly certain she lowers the collective intelligence of any room she’s in.

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Give her a jar of cookies and tell her that one of them ate a child but you don’t know wich one, so she has to look at it forever to make shure it won’t happen again XD

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@Holyginz @mp3

And yet they do. :/

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The convoy’s private Facebook group, which coun nearly 300 members, indicates that it is focused on issues like pedophilia, child trafficking, grooming and indoctrination.

Funny, they NEVER protest against churches. Why is that?

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No, they mentioned “grooming and indoctrination”.

Oh wait…

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“Some of those who work forces, are the same the burn crosses”

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If it wasn’t actually problematic it would be fascinating. It’s like watching a documentary about a cult.

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I’ve always found it funny that the reason why science fiction and fantasy villains are almost always such lackluster characters is because science fiction and fantasy writers have to stick within the realm of plausibility whereas real life villains are not hampered by such trivialities.

Your sci-fi villain has to have a tragic backstory where he’s using the power of the universe killing machine to bring back his dead girlfriend or something.

In contrast, your real life villain is organizing a civil war militia to protect himself from enemies that he imagines existing somewhere even though he has no proof whatsoever, and all over the Western world people are proudly following these nut bags and even buying the merch.

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In the real world the biggest villains actually believe that they are good, and they use that belief to justify that everything they do, even bad things, are done in the pursuit of good. They are convinced that they are doing good and that they are pure, good people, and they don’t ever feel bad.

Villains aren’t like some Joker, or Dr. Evil. They are culty and give themselves a license to control and harm other people.

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It’s the same thing with the rich and powerful. Most rich and powerful people believe they got to that position because of their inherent worth, either their genius or their accomplishments or as being good stewards of their birthright if they were born wealthy.

These people have a reason to not hear what other people say when people tell them that what they are doing is amoral at best and immoral at worst. They take it as a personal attack on their self-esteem and their self worth rather than as an attempt to begin fixing the larger societal problems that their current position is capable of fixing.

Elon musk doesn’t have to be a nut job. He doesn’t have to destroy the conversational communal meeting place of a billion people to be someone of note. He’s doing it because he thinks he can do it better and that all of us idiot plebeians will just follow along once he sets the path.

The fact that this will have in the process destroyed the ability for people across the planet to coordinate against despotic government systems in the process is not important because that would mean that Elon did a bad thing, and that would make Elon feel bad so it’s just not even going to be considered.

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Honestly, is risky, but that could make for a pretty interesting sci-fi or fantasy villian, if handled correctly - but it’d be a fine line between playing it deadly straight and melodrama overload.

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