Hi,

I’m using docker-compose to host all my server services (jellyfin, qbittorrent, sonarr, etc.). I’ve recently grouped some of them into individual categories and then merged the individual docker-compose.yml file I had for each service into one per category. But is there actually any reason for not keeping them together?

The reason why is I’ve started configuring homepage and thought to myself “wouldn’t it be cool if instead of giving the server IP each time (per configured service in homepage) I’d just use the service name?” (AFAIK this only works if the containers are all in the same file).

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For simplicity sake alone I would say No. As long as services don’t share infrastructure (eg. a database) you shouldn’t mix them so you have an easier time updating your scripts.

Another point is handling stacks. When you create dockers via compose you are not supposed to touch them individually. Collecting them all, or even just in categories, muddies that concept, since you have unrelated services grouped in a single stack and would need to update/up/down/… them all even if you just needed that for a single one.

Lastly networks. Usually you’d add networks to your stacks to isolate their respective Backend into closed networks, with only the exposing container (eg. a web frontend) being in the publicly available network to increase security and avoid side effects.

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So right now I have a single compose file with a file structure like this:

docker/
├─ compose/
│  ├─ docker-compose.yml
├─ config/
│  ├─ service1/
│  ├─ service2/

Would you in that case use a structure like the following?

docker/
├─ service1/
│  ├─ config/
│  ├─ docker-compose.yml
├─ service2/
│  ├─ config/
│  ├─ docker-compose.yml

Or a different folder structure?

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The second one is exactly what I have. One folder for each service containing it’s compose file and all persistent data belonging to that stack(unless it’s something like your media files)

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The second is exactly how I do it. Keeps everything separate so easy to move individual services to another host if needed. Easy to restart a single service without taking them all down. Keeps everything neat and organized (IMO).

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I have a folder that all my docker services are in. Inside the folder is a folder for each discrete service and within that folder is a unique compose file necessary to run the service. Also in the folder is all the storage folders for that service so it’s completely portable, move the folder to any server and run it and you’re golden. I shut down all the services with a script then I can just tar the whole docker folder and every service and its data is backed up and portable.

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This is exactly what I do and could not be happier!

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In case anyone cares here is my script, I use this for backups or shutting down the server.

#!/bin/bash

logger "Stopping Docker compose services"

services=(/home/user/docker/*)    # This creates an array of the full paths to all subdirs
#the last entry in this array is always blank line, hence the minus 1 in the for loop count below

for ((i=0; i<=(${#services[@]}-1); i++))
do
    docker compose -f ${services[i]}/docker-compose.yml down &
done

#wait for all the background commands to finish
wait 
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Exactly my setup and for exactly the reasons you mentioned

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Exactly what I do except my master folder is ~

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I do ~/docker so I also have a docker-prototype folder for my sandbox/messing around with non-production stuff and I have a third folder for retired docker services so I keep the recipe and data in case I go back.

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Does portainer just work?

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To answer my own question, yes, yes it does. Should’ve done this ages ago…

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Could you share your script?

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@czardestructo I like the tidiness of this.

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No, keep them ungrouped, migration to a new server is much easier, otherwise you need to migrate everything everywhere all at once

You can have the same effect (connect to the named container) if you create a docker network and place everything on the same network

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No, no you should not. I haven’t used homepage but you probably just need to attach the services to the same network or just map the ports on the host and just use the host IP.

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Probably want to keep services with different life cycles in separate docker compose files to allow you to shutdown/restart/reconfigure then separately. If containers depend on each other, then combining into compose file makes sense.

That said, experimenting is part of the fun, nothing wrong with testing it out and seeing if you like it.

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