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The USSR collapsed more than 30 years ago. Modern day Russia has nothing to do with communism at all.

It is closer to its Czarist imperial roots than it is to the the USSR. You would be more accurate using the Russian Imperial Eagle

They literally revived the old imperial symbol when the Russian federation was created.

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Yeah yeah. You’re right of course. I am an American child of the 80’s though which is why my mind uses the hammer and sickle still.

Also, Fuck Russia.

Edit: And, you try photoshoping that fucking eagle into a stencil format. Fuck that.

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I don’t suppose… I could maybe get that without the trump sign? Possibly in .dxf format?

(no, I’m not going to make a stencil and gratuitously vandalize every trump sign I see… why would you even ask?!)

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I am an American child of the 80’s though which is why my mind uses the hammer and sickle still.

Wolverines!!

Not American but I totally understand. :)

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Wolverines!!

You nailed it. I must have been 9 or so when that came out.

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I mean tbf they also make use of soviet iconography to just as much of a degree, they have a weird obsession with synchrotizing soviet aesthetics with Imperial Russian aesthetics in what can only be described as “grievance culture chique”

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Fascists always talk about returning to some former greatness. If the greater past was communist, thousands of years ago or a fairy tale does not matter as much.

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From what my Russian friends told me: Putin is a neo czarist. He has been preaching the “evils of western influences” for 30 years and trying to revive the Russian Empire. “As Marxism is a German ideology and was imported by the Germans to cause the Russian Empire to implode into civil war and close the western front in WWI to destabilize the Russian Empire it is inherently flawed and evil” : the “mighty Russian” people endured “western Marxism” and are still proud of their cultural symbolism from that time period as they made the art not the “evil westerners who tricked them into attempting communism”.

If you would like more sourced information about this topic, I would advise you to read the foundations of geopolitics.

Edit added more quote marks

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Breaking out Alexander Dugin; nice.

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You say that like the USSR had anything to do with communism.

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It did for a while, until it didn’t.

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It didn’t really, at all. It had revolutionaries with little in the way of ability to govern, and then a bunch of opportunistic autocrats who came in to pick up the pieces. Saying they had anything to do with communism was idealism at first, and outright fabrication after.

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At least it pretended to.

Modern-day Russia doesn’t even try to pretend.

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They used communist symbolism. That seems relevant when we’re talking about symbols.

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Soviet symbolism.

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I hate when people think communism means USSR. It had nothing to do with ut except the name

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It did, and it was a great example of where communism leads, as demonstrated by every other nation state that has gone communist. Devolution into an authoritarian dictatorship isn’t a bug in communism, it’s a feature. It’s right in that little single-party “transitional” government bit. WTF do you think is gonna happen with that kind of ass-hattery?

We can incorporate socialist elements and reign in the excesses of capitalism without giving up our democracies and accepting authoritarian rule, thank you very much. Communists are either assholes or idiots, just like fascists.

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The common denominator here is human greed and lack of regulations protecting everybody else. Authoritarianism is a feature of that, regardless of what system you’re talking about. Economic policy has little bearing on whether or not a one party system turns into a dictatorship. A capitalist country in the same position would end up the same way, although more likely it would become a corporatocracy. There have been a handful of successful communist societies (largely on the small scale, like those boats that were stranded in a canal who formed their own communal society for a number of years because the companies that owned the boats didn’t care enough to bother rescuing them), but the issues of both communism and capitalism always come back to simple everyday human greed and too much power in too few hands.

The modern Russian oligarchs made their fortune when Russia, the Ukraine, and one other country I can’t remember joined together to dissolve the USSR in order to destabilize the economy so they could enact a stock market and buy up all the previously government owned industries before anyone else could. They even flew American stock market experts over beforehand to teach them how to do it. Given the opportunity, they would’ve done the exact same thing in a capitalist country. I’m not here to defend the USSR, because it absolutely had plenty of problems (authoritarianism among them), but those pictures from the 90s of people starving in the streets are from that period where Russia transitioned from a planned economy to a more capitalist economy.

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It never got anywhere near communism. You just had a bunch of ideologues who imposed their idea of a “perfect society” on others without any real idea of how to actually accomplish that. Then a bunch of opportunistic prats came in, convinced others “Oh hey, we’ll give you communism, you betcha” while imposing their own fascist ideals on it.

Authoritarianism is literally the opposite of communism. Just because some assholes called themselves communism and told you “this is communism” doesn’t mean it was in any way true.

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Oh, they started using the hammer and sickle more since the war started.

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That’s a disgrace.

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Putin was trained by the KGB.

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If he was a communist and had control of Russia than Russia wouldn’t be the way it was.

It may surprise you that some capitalism supporters got into power in the soviet union before Yeltsin ordered the parliament to be bombarded with tanks, dissolving the socialist democracy and bringing about capitalism in former soviet states.

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So we agree. Putin was trained by the Soviet KGB.

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Love all the people who completely missed the point that this isn’t supposed to be accurate, it’s supposed to trigger the conservatives since they’re still stuck in the Red Scare propaganda and call anything they don’t like “communism”.

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Seeing a Trump lawn sign is akin to seeing someone’s septic system malfunction. It’s just a bunch of smelly shit that’s splattered all over the front yard.

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This is offensive. Trump is the opposite of what that symbol represents.

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I think it’s been too corrupted by misuse, kind of like the swastika.

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Well, what’s the symbol of modern communism? A smartphone and a vibrator? The pride flag?

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Basically. Dictator pull-ups

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