Apollo founder Christian Selig said he’s “heartbroken” about pulling the plug on the third-party app following Reddit’s API pricing changes.

96 points

Judging from the slowdowns and hiccups around here, yeah, I’d say that was “some”. And we’re not done yet either. Plenty of people in the world party on friday and saturday. Plenty of people in the US are camping or something on an extended weekend.

Everyone checks it eventually as the week rolls on though. Kinda fortunate for us, really. Spreads the influx out.

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23 points

Do you know if there are usage stats posted somewhere? I would like to see how much people joins in the upcoming weeks.

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29 points

There are a few different sites that keep track of it. I like the way https://fedidb.org/software/Lemmy presents the stats. The dip in users that they show though is from them removing a bunch of bot instances from their metrics.

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18 points

I’ve seen a few stats posted throughout the day. Around 6hrs ago I saw just lemmy.world activity had risen 40% since yesterday.

I’m one of the new ones so I don’t know where stats came from tho.

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12 points

I was posting and encouraging Lemmy.world and wefwef like crazy until Apollo died.

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5 points

Lenny just needs to stay popular enough while it works out the kinks. More will eventually follow as it gets polished.

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9 points

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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I’m one that left after RiF got shut down. Lemmy.world just announced an increase of 20k new users over the weekend (about a 40% increase), so I’d say there’s quite a few of us

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79 points

After Apollo’s API token was invalid, I deleted my account. I know it’s a minuscule drop in the ocean for Reddit, but not matter, I’m with Lemmy and the fediverse come what may.

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22 points

Same, in the optional feedback box, I told them to fire Spez

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8 points

Same. Can’t do much, but I think voting with our feet is the right thing to do.

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2 points

It’s pretty cozy here tbh, really liking it so far and it’s way more busy than I was expecting.

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19 points

I think this is also true for a lot of long term power-users of reddit. So, LOTS of drops in the ocean.

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I can confirm. The drop wouldn’t impact me until they drop old.reddit.com, but I dropped Reddit because of moral reasons.

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11 points

I also deleted my account on Friday. Yea, we are just few drops, but enough drops have an impact.

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5 points

I haven’t deleted my account, but I deleted every post and comment.

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9 points

worth keeping your account on the off chance someone with a brain takes over and unfucks the place or you can find a good price to sell it to spammers.

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5 points

I’ve also kept my account for the time being in case they want to revert any comments. Will be deleting in a few days.

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77 points

I used Reddit for over a decade, and much of that was with Apollo. Not going back purely because of how they treated Christian and the other 3rd party devs

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39 points

I’ve said this before elsewhere, but all of the spez BS aside, I used RiF for reddit. To me, that was Reddit. 95% of my time on reddit was through the lens of RiF.

They are effectively getting rid of reddit for me by forcing RiF to shutdown.

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11 points

Good way of putting it. Their app was so horrible that I went from PAYING and using their app to moving to Apollo. I tried using it after they bought Blue Alien but it got worse and worse and finally I gave up paying and moved. Reddit died with third party useful apps.

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Before the APIcalypse, I thought about quitting reddit. Now that my 3rd party app died, quitting has never been easier. I tried to check the site with a mobile browser, but I can’t collapse comments, so that ended up being a very quick visit.

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5 points

Exactly my scenario. They really fucked the chicken up with the move to charge for API access.

It’s amazing how history always finds a way of repeating itself. The ignorance to not acknowledge what happened to digg, and what sent so many to deadit is laughable. I would be very interested to see what traffic looks like now to reddit, and how much of it is coming from their app, which I think they said they will start charging a monthly subscription fee for. That CEO should have the cheese touch after that debacle.

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4 points

Lmao a subscription to use the app

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4 points

THEY ARE CHARGING FOR THE APP???

What alternate reality are they living in?

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3 points

Really a subscription for the basic tier app? That would be madness.

Of course it’s madness now that they charge $50/year now for premium. It was paying the highest’ tier of Apollo and it was $10/year and actually had features I wanted.

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4 points

100% agree, hate to see it go down like that but they made their decisions

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4 points

I used Apollo and I feel ya. I used to keep the default app installed so I could claim free gifts but it wasn’t worth ending up in the official Reddit app on accident while browsing the web :P Yeah, it’s that bad.

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13 points

Hell yeah. 16 years here, and as part of some big happenings early on. (RIP I_RAPE_CATS)

Haven’t touched Reddit since Apollo died.

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8 points

Yep, deleted mine yesterday. Their disdain for the mods that provide free labor and for the users in general with their lazy “they’ll get over it” attitude was the deal breaker. Fuuuuuck Reddit.

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74 points

Everyone keeps commenting on how federation feels “emptier” than Reddit, but honestly all I did after 15 or so years on Reddit is doom scroll. I just lurked and felt miserable. There IS less content here and because of that I visit for a shorter period of time and that FREEs me up to do other, more productive things with people I know outside of social media. After the past few weeks of learning about the tech and the why and how of the land I think I like the balance here.

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26 points

Nine year redditor here; I never fell into the doomscrolling that so many others talk about, and I will miss Reddit, but something I’ve discovered is that while it’s difficult to get a “toe hold” in the fediverse, once you do, there is way more content here than I ever knew about on Reddit.

Not saying that Reddit didn’t have it, but rather that I never got curious enough to poke around beyond my main block of subs that I’d curated over that decade. There are entire domains here devoted to science or philosophy or retro gaming, and it really does look like they’re vibrant and active. Finding them is the issue, which really is the big problem with the fediverse in the first place.

There really isn’t a great cut-and-switch over to Lemmy that will make a redditor feel like nothing has changed, but the discovery process isn’t too much different from Reddit, and I think people need to remember that their Reddit experience wasn’t built in a day. My suggestion is to take a more curious approach rather than the “Reddit’s dead, what’s its identical replacement?” that I see, because there really isn’t one and, even if there was, it’d be just as susceptible to the same disease that is currently killing Reddit (and Twitter).

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8 points

I think this is great. It’s a new opportunity for all of us to define something new - whatever that means to each of us.

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19 points

See, I have to agree with how it feels empty. I very carefully curated the subs I looked at on reddit. I was there for very specific news and discussion and memes about my various hobbies and interests all compiled into a single easy to access place. This does not fill my needs yet. But hopefully we can start filling that niche going forward.

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11 points

That’s exactly my experience- Reddit was really my only social media for most of the last 5 years. I had everything I wanted in one place, and multireddits in Apollo kept it all running smoothly

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1 point

Totally agree that I want more variety. As with any adventure only time will tell if this is worth it as far as a time investment.

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15 points

Rather than simply look to Lemmy as a replacement, I’ve also been trying not just not need to look at a screen constantly.

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8 points

Honestly, in addition to the doom scrolling, because there is less here at the moment, I feel like I can contribute more without feeling like I’m talking to an empty field after a festival. This place will grow, but hopefully it doesn’t turn out to be as Reddit is.

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5 points

It feels like Lemmy has gotten significantly better over the last few days. I’m having to close out much less frequently

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5 points

I haven’t read more than a handful of books in the last decade; I’m sure it’s because I got my reading fix on Reddit instead. I’m really curious how this will change in the future.

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3 points

Stopped using Reddit on mobile for a while when they announced they were killing 3rd party apps. Replaced it with the Apple “Books” app, and I’ve gone through 2 books already. Highly recommend it lol

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I’m the same way - I don’t read anymore. I have a BA in English. I should love reading. I am also in a career that involves a bunch of reading and writing, so I am also kinda burned out at the end of the day by stressful content; and Reddit did always have something fun and dumb to look at along with the doom. (Oh, can’t forget about the great Google search sourcing - I do miss that)

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2 points

Crazy question, I’ve seen the phrase doom scroll a few times- I get the scroll, but not the doom? I feel like I’m missing something

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5 points

I take it to mean people just scrolling and scrolling their life away, because they are addicted to see what else will appear next. A lot of social media tries to get this happening on purpose so people use their service more and more.

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Happy to explain! For me doom scrolling is the tendency to be attracted to the top trending posts of the last 24 hours on Reddit - specifically bad or triggering news. Perhaps for some people that would be news only about social movements or political policies that are frightening for them or their loved ones. Hence a sense of “doom” when scrolling through the feed. Another example might be posts related to Ukraine and Putin’s tactical nukes being moved to Belarus. It all depends on the individual but it’s usually triggering shit that you really don’t need to see more of …

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That’s an interesting take and would have been much harder to digest if I saw a comment like that on reddit. However, most of the things I was viewing were all doom and gloom with some exceptions.

I would start the day, looking at doom and gloom and wonder why my anxiety and stress seemed to coincide at the same time. 2 days now and I can clearly see how even scrolling through that stuff was bad for my mental health. I’m still interested in keeping an eye on news but not to that same level again. I kind of feel reset if that makes any sense. While I think the CEO is a dumbass for doing that, I think as time goes on, I might actually be thankful that it happened.

Either way, realizing now how the constant scrolling was a negative impact for me, and dipped my bucket every single morning, I am now aware and can try to learn from it.

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Never heard of that term, but making a blind guess… “doom scroll” is basically searching for world/daily tragedies and projecting one’s insecurities towards such, i.e “HAHA that guy deserved to be trashed!.. even more than I do.”

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2 points

Yeah I agree. Of course it feels empty. But so did reddit. it’s just a different kind of empty. At reddit it was like walking lonely halls that went on forever. Here, at least, it feels like there’s only twenty-seven people all stuck on the face of a brand new habitable planet. It really feels like a fresh start, and it’s up to us to make this place better for everyone.

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2 points

Yep, smaller, but a tighter group of like-minded folks.

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67 points

Went straight from Apollo to wefwef. Smooth transition.

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24 points

It’s surprisingly good, for a project that started just 20 days ago. And I don’t want to jinx it but the pace of development is quite good as well, they keep releasing updates every few hours or so.

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3 points

Hardest part was remembering what subjects I was subscribed to and finding analogues here

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1 point

Have you tried the “Migrate Apollo Export” option in the settings? Not perfect since of course lots of things don’t have one to one analogues, but it’s handy for going through your subs.

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14 points

Same here. So far so good.

Not as much activity as Reddit obviously, but I’m embracing it by seeking out the more active communities. I definitely fell into a rut on Reddit by only sticking to a handful of subs. This transition is forcing me to develop new interests, it’s great!

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5 points

Agree. The more I play around and get comfortable with Lemmy the more I realize I don’t need to “grieve” the loss of Reddit

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2 points

Same here. So far so good.

Not as much activity as Reddit obviously, but I’m embracing it by seeking out the more active communities. I definitely fell into a rut on Reddit by only sticking to a handful of subs. This transition is forcing me to develop new interests, it’s great!

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