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Gentle reminder that Henry Kissinger is still dead

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Thanks, I was having a lousy morning

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That brings me no happiness.

He managed to live to 100. Where there’s millions he killed who did not even make it past puberty.

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4 points

Not much of a comeuppance, is it?

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8 points

After living his best life possible🥰

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Thanks for that!

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And I Intend for him to stay that way!

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62 points

reminder that the people who did this are still alive, have opinions and vote.

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And only one was tried. His sentence was changed from life in prison to 3 years house arrest by Nixon. How the fuck is that possible? I would understand they would try to sweep this under the table, but it was a well known incident, such a thing that they should lock up everyone involved and throw away the keys just to show No, we do not do such things, THEY DO.

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Not only that, but:

Initially, three U.S. servicemen who had tried to halt the massacre and rescue hiding civilians were shunned, and even denounced as traitors by several U.S. congressmen, including Mendel Rivers (D–SC), Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.

What’s in Wikipedia doesn’t match my memory; what I thought had happened was that Thompson did more than “try to halt.” He landed his helicopter between US troops and a group of obviously harmless villagers and told his men to shoot the Americans if they tried to continue murdering the villagers.

He and the other soldiers who stopped the massacre and reported what had happened were viewed by most Americans as traitors at the time, and for quite a while after.

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and told his men to shoot the Americans if they tried to continue murdering the villagers.

I can’t remember where I read it… but apparently a group of British soldiers did the same thing during the Korean War when they witnessed US personnel guarding Korean concentration camp inmates that were about to be “liquidated” by ROK troops.

I need to find that again.

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How the fuck is that possible?

Colonialist warfare is just a laundry list of war crimes perpetrated against an “other” - and you can’t commit war crimes without war criminals.

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Also reminder that there were those that actively tried stopping it, and iirc, a helo pilot ordering the door gunner to shoot his own troops of they would fire upon civilians.

He was, or course, court martialled for this. Not sure how it initially ended, it’s been a while since I read about it.

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When America realized its military does stuff that they thought only other countries did. Between this and the pentagon papers, Vietnam was when Americans stopped trusting their government.

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All that WWII being a justified war shit really set the tone for the rest of the century and clearly into this one.

Will my t-shirts be made by exploited children in China or Vietnam? I don’t know, but who the fuck needs health care.

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Now apply* that logic to the idf.

Corrected.

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Now apply* that logic to the idf.

I guess every thread has to be about Israel.
Apply the logic of US public loss of trust in the government to Israel’s armed forces?

These are two different things, Israeli support for Netanyahu’s government is at an all time low:

Such sentiments are backed up by numbers: New polling data shows that Israelis’ trust in government is at a 20-year low of 18%. Only 20.5% of Jewish Israelis and 7.5% of Arab Israelis polled by the Israel Democracy Institute in the aftermath of Hamas’s attack said they had trust in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/public-trust-in-government-scrapes-bottom-amid-criticism-for-inadequate-war-response/

But trust in the IDF remains quite high:

Leftist and centrist Israelis overwhelmingly trust the heads of the IDF, at 80% and 74% respectively.
Rightists, on the other hand, are far less likely to trust the heads of the IDF at only 41%, they are also more likely to believe that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu could be trusted with the war at 10%. 29% trusted both the same amount.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-771429

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Famed evangelist Billy Graham wrote a stirring defense of Calley, the officer in charge of the massacre.

We have all had our Mylais in one way or another

No Billy, we have not.

The sickness of the evangelical church is not a recent development.

https://www.nytimes.com/1971/04/09/archives/billy-graham-on-calley-perhaps-from-mylai-may-emerge-justice-love.html

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We have all had our Mylais in one way or another

“So Mr. Graham, does that mean you’re willing to forgive Obama for wearing a tan suit or eating Dijon mustard that one time?”

Mr. Graham, in “Bilbo suddenly turning into Gollum for a second” voice: “NEVER

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We have all had our Mylais in one way or another

You know, looking back on my life, I’ve made some mistakes. But I have never committed nor have I excused the rape and murder of children. Billy Graham got to hell in 2018 and I hope he’s had a new My Lai every day since then.

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And people wonder why I don’t support our military. This is why

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Literally nobody on the planet supports your military, except your taxpayers and voters 😂 That’s probably you.

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Do you think i have a choice in whether my tax dollars go to the U.S. military or not? Try not paying your taxes in this country, and they’ll show up at your house and put you in prison so fast, you won’t have time to ask why you’re being arrested…

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You can avoid paying taxes, just gotta have enough zeros on the end of your net worth.

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So, not literally nobody.

There’s also all the NATO countries and our allies that depend on us for mutual defense, and everyone who benefits from Pax Americana.

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