193 points

Fuck Google.

Searching a tracking number from Chrome using Google? Finds a package.

Same search on Google from Firefox leads to nothing.

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Hell net neutrality laws might even have relevance if they keep this up.

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Edit 2: Well, at least I know I’m right. Downvote away.

Sorry, I’m all for net neutrality, but behavior based on browser usage, while dickish, has nothing to do with it.

Edit: it seems like I’m being schooled. Got any sources to back up your downvotes?

Edit 3: nope. I’m not being schooled. The downvoters should either get better informed or stop downvoting with their emotions.

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41 points

yes it does, net neutrality not only has to do with the ISP but also the services. different useragent string should NOT lead to a worse quality of service.

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Hmmm, not sure why people are downvoting…

Maybe these days people are using the term “net neutrality” in a broader sense to just mean equitable access, rather than the specific meaning that’s been used in the past to refer to ISP behavior and giving preference based on how much is paid?

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Well, you might want to look at the Wikipedia article on Net Neutrality to see whether or not you are being schooled on it.

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It also does that with other unrecognised user agents.

Personally I don’t understand why someone would still use Google when duckduckgo has more features and is just as good for searching and in the very rare case it isn’t you can easily switch back temporarily by just adding the prefix “!g” to your query.

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I tried duckduckgo for a while and kept coming back to Google for “real” searches at work. It’s not as good for searching in my experience. Yet.

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Duckduckgo has become a little better than it used to be… but google has also become a whole lot worse.

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The vast majority of times I go back to Google to do a search I find it also returns useless results. I’m not convinced it’s any better than duckduckgo. I think it used to be, but not anymore.

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9 points

What’s your field?

I’m in a DevOps/Cloud Engineer role and DDG works better for me than Google. No ads and somehow fewer of the gpt generated fake help articles.

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6 points

Big same. I’ll even bang out to Startpage to try to avoid directly using Google (!sp vs. !g), but that’s not as good either.

I bow to my search overlord Google. Until I try Grasp, Kagi, and SearXNG, and hopefully one of those will satisfy (in particular SearXNG).

Until then DDG remains my default, and I’ll !g half the time :(

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I really want to ditch Google, but DuckDuckGo aint there my brother.

It may work for some simpler/lazy searches, but for real stuff, nah.

The “good” thing is that Google search is going the way of Amazon, so with Google shooting themselves in the foot and DDG catching up a bit, maybe soon they’ll level

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Works perfectly fine for trouble shooting complicated IT problems.

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ddg always drops one of at least two troublesome terms. Which is infuriating.

Might have to do with my settings, in which case it is a bug.

Bangs are gold (which is why ddg is my default) but i still sometimes miss exclusions.

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Isn’t ducksuckgo just paying for google search with a privacy wrapper/obfuscation layer on top?

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3 points

Yes, except for it’s Bing search not Google

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It’s stupid we need an extension to fix this on mobile devices but there’s an extension to fix this on mobile devices

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10 points

I get results with DDG

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140 points

Someone, light the EU signal!

Lawsuit intensifies in the distance

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Fuck Google. Ruining the internet for profit.

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30 points

They dont want to just run it.

they want to control and dictate it.

Google needs a massive regulatory hammer to come down on it and smash it into dozens, if not hundreds, of tiny individual companies

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8 points

That needs to happen more with Alphabet than Google but either would be great.

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5 points

You and everyone on the entire planet knew what i meant.

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4 points

Both. Both is good.

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4 points

nationalize these fucks

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The internet is incredibly important to the modern society. Letting private companies only motivated by filling the pockets of the old farts shareholders run it is a bad idea. It’s time we consider Internet infrastructure like any other type of infrastructure.

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81 points

Can you say Anticompetition practices?

1 lawsuit, 2 lawsuit, 3 lawsuit ah ah ah

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Slam dunks, yes. But does any of the people who would bring a case against then have enough money to fight an army of more lawyers? Probably not.

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Idk I’ll just find some millionaire/billionaire who’s hungry for public approval in the space and bug them about it probably

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67 points

User Agent String: A browser’s way of lying about what it is, in order to not trigger some server’s arcane content filtering system.

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User Agents should be optional. The whole idea of the Internet was that the server should respond the same way to the same request regardless of the client’s qualities.

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There are qualities that are useful for having different responses, like supported language, whether the browser accepts gzipped content, etc.

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8 points

Fuck that shit.

  • You can do language codes in the URL to serve different versions of content
  • If your browser can do TLS then it should be able to handle gzip content or alternatively if the internet didn’t allow cookies and scripting in your browser then it would have been safe to use TLSs built in compression

Check out the Gemini protocol if you want to see that a lot of HTTP spec stuff is completely unnecessary

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6 points

That’s in separate headers

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