49 points

they literally banned pop-up headlights because of “pedestrian safety”. how about having a real driving school system instead of letting people drive if they pass the test after the 1200th time by random chance?

i do agree that a multi-ton stainless steel bomb is dangerous, but cars are inherently dangerous. that’s just something that needs to be adressed by proper training and infrastructure that makes collisions less likely.

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they literally banned pop-up headlights because of “pedestrian safety”.

This is a really cool TIL!!

Thanks for that tidbit

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This seems to be a great time to have that discussion. I think historically in the US, people just couldn’t get around with a car as our mass transit has been historically terrible but things are improving with ride share now (not nearly as good but better than nothing). Now that there are actually real alternatives to driving, we should be actively increasing the threshold to obtain a drivers license. I mean, we won’t, but we should.

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8 points

Uber is NOT an acceptable replacement for public transport and acting like it is, is foolish. A public transit system seeks to move people around, and make enough money to keep themselves alive. A rideshare app only seeks profit, and will move people around as a means to that end. They are diametrically opposed. Further privatizing things in America that should be public utilities is a very bad, no good, awful idea.

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2 points

Driving ability comes second behind vehicle design and systemic car dependency.

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how about having a real driving school system instead of letting people drive if they pass the test after the 1200th time by random chance?

I would love to make it more difficult for people to get (and keep!) a driver’s license, but I think we need to invest more in public transit first. Otherwise people will be stranded and unable to work, go to school, go to the store, etc. So many things require a car, and we need to get rid of that requirement first.

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You have a bit of a chicken and egg problem here: Nobody wants to invest in public transport because everybody is driving by car, while nobody wants to use public transport, because it is shit. Increasing the lobby for better public transport by making it harder to drive could be useful there, assuming you make the state take care of the problem cases during the transition (here in Europe some countries cover costs of taxi fare for kids who can’t reach school within a reasonable time by public transit, for example)

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The DMV is not the public works/transit department

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-1 points

Yup, driving is a privilege, not a right.

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23 points

I’ve got a Volvo wagon, which is not exactly a tiny car. I parked next to a new GMC Sierra 2500 and the hood of that truck is level with the roof of my car.

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Nice! What year?

I used to have an ‘03 V70R. I could fit all my band gear in it at the time: amp, 4x12, several guitars, an 88 key piano, two 61 key synths, keyboard stands, AND my singer in the front seat!

Not tiny at all!

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I’ve got a '16 v60. A little smaller than your v70 but still fantastic to drive and cavernous

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Ive got an 08 V70. Specifically didnt go to a v60 because I saw someone move a single door fridge in their v70 and I thought “I want that”

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19 points

Add to the fact that the cybertruck doesn’t have crumple zones, which are a basic safety feature in practically all cars and trucks made since the 2000s.

If that thing hits you as a pedestrian or if you’re in a car, you will lose. Only having your own car crumple to absorb the impact will do little to dissuade the 7000 lb behemoth barreling towards you, either in a frontal collision or worse, a driver side impact.

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Doesn’t have crumple zones? How does this thing possibly meet safety standards?

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14 points

Normally pickup trucks and SUVs in the USA are considered “light trucks” which have easier safety and emissions standards.

I don’t really know the ins and outs if it though, I just watch videos on the internet.

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Yeah, “light trucks” also includes full size vans, minivans, SUVs. Which is a big reason why there are so many of those on the road: manufacturers don’t have to meet the same fuel economy or safety standards as passenger cars.

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compared to an f-150 lightning, it has roughly the same amount of crumpling. i think the panels around the front are just a little thinner than the steel panels the f-150 uses.

but both are far more dangerous than your average hatchback due to the visibility alone. you are literally allowed to remove all rear-view mirrors in america.

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Iirc you only have to have one functional mirror, but that may vary by state.

A rear-view mirror really isn’t super necessary, though. If you angle your side view mirrors right, you can see enough to drive safely.

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There are videos online clearly showing the front crumpling in a crash test.

The main danger to pedestrians over other such trucks is the sharp edges.

The danger to other cars is the same age old problem with SUVs amplified by current battery density.

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Add to the fact that the cybertruck doesn’t have crumple zones

This is a absolutely false and you can see it in videos and there is even an engineering discussion that describes how it works.

The castings themselves have areas that begin weaker, and becoming increasingly stronger as the crash moves further into the casting.

It disperses the energy as it crumples.

This isn’t even new to their CT castings, it’s designed into their other vehicles as well.

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Most big trucks have bumpers that are a good foot or so above my normal sized car’s.

That shit shouldn’t be legal.

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You hate it cuz you ain’t it.

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12 points

I hate it cause its lethal, wasteful, and stupid.

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-3 points

Is it stupid to know that in a collision my family won’t get crushed? It’s an arms race, and I’m not gonna lose it. Are you?

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