While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys’ opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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If my FP4 dies in the next year, I will fix it. Because iFixit gave it 10/10.

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Too bad about the software security updates and lack of security features. Might be a good spare phone though

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Software updates of the old phone or the fp5?

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Crap meant security updates I’ll edit it in but their phones overall. The company is notorious for not providing full security updates for the promised length which can end up jeopardizing the customer. Then specifically for the fp5 there’s the lack of a secure element and iirc verified boot but I could be mistaken

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Running android puts rather a low ceiling on security and privacy

Edit: ok look y’all, I’m stoked that there are some privacy and security-focused routes for nerds to take, but aggregate security for the average user who goes to a store and buys what the salesperson recommends is an important metric.

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You don’t have to use Google services on the fairphone. And if you use it without those, Android is waaaaaaaaay more private than iOS.

iPhones are barely much better than Android phones for privacy or security.

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Iirc the chipset, QCM6490, will lose support after 2028 meaning the device will get at least 5 years of security updates and not the promised 8. Pretty sure that’s why grapheneOS doesn’t/won’t support it since the company doesn’t keep to their promises

Edit: found grapheneOS’ response

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Buying this phone as a “spare phone” you very well may never actually need seems to contradict the point of it

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Thats true but I was referring to it being useful for travelers or as a work phone. Just being useful when you don’t want to expose your personal device

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That is a 700+ dollar “spare phone”. Must be nice. It seems like an ok phone but it’s so expensive that the sustainability angle seems like pretense. My last phone (Moto G4 XT1625, Android 7) was $170 and was technologically obsolescent and physically decrepit by the time I replaced it after about 6 years. I’d like to see how many fairphones are still in use after that long.

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LineageOS, my friend.

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They provide updates for as long as Apple. More than any other android OEM.

Educate yourself before you attempt to speak with authority.

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I’m really sorry I hurt your poor little fee fees 🥺🥺🥺

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13 points

I would love to get one.

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120 points

Too bad they don’t sell them in the US. I would buy one immediately.

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I generally try to check every few years to see if they sell to the US yet. Last I checked they would finally ship FP4 to the US, but it will only work on T-Mobile :/ gonna check back in a few more years.

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2 points

Well if you’re on ATT or any of it’s mvno’s good luck ever using any devices that isn’t on their approved list. I can’t even use my carrier unlocked Oneplus 7T. Really the only choice for device freedom in the “land of the free” is T-Mobile.

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they’re selling the 4 with degoogled OS in the US, so perhaps they’ll do the same with the 5 at some point.

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34 points

Amazing.

I’m sick of buying a new phone every three years because the battery is dead or the processor is slow, nothing can be replaced without it being wildly expensive and now it’s a paperweight.

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To be fair, I don’t think the Fairphone will help much with outdated processors. You can’t upgrade the processor inside, and it comes with a relatively slow processor from day one.

This phone is not for people that need performance; it’s a very basic phone for people that value an ethical supply chain and repairability.

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7 points

Great news, really hope the 5 is next.

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18 points

That and supporting grapheneos would do it for me

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That’s more up to the grapheneOS devs

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True, but part of the reason they don’t go for it is hardware things that are missing

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12 points

For me, the problem was that they don’t support the right bands for US carriers.

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3 points

That’s not fair

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4 points

I’m able to use Mint Mobile here in the States on my Fairphone 4. I believe 5 would also be compatible.

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I appreciate you mentioning that, thats how I’m considering using the 5 if it ends up as my phone replacement, but I have a hard time interpreting the info around wireless frequency bandwidths supported 🙃 I like pretty user interfaces, networking hurts my brain

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I’ve being following Fairphone since 2013, waiting for them to sell to Taiwan. After a years of waiting, in 2019 I just said fk it and bought one from official store, ship it with international packaging forwarding service. Couldn’t be happier with my Fairphone ever since.

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Awesome phone as a concept, which is something that android fortunately still has a lot of.

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Happy to report that my Fairphone 3 is also very much an awesome phone as a phone.

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That’s great, but I mean to say that the people who would most benefit from a fairphone are those that would never spend more than 200 euro in a phone.

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The people working in the production chain?

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