My resin printer was powered off with resin in the vat for about 7 months. Last night I turned it on, gave it a job, and I woke up to a successful print.

My inkjet printer was powered off for 2 weeks. Last night I turned it on, gave it a job, and was instantly disappointed with a streaky, blotchy output. Running a clean cycle just made the output worse.

Why are 2D printers so terrible despite decades of development? What are some 2D printers this community has had good interactions with/would recommend?

73 points

Brother laser printers are great.

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I got mine almost a decade ago and I’ve replaced the toner once, never had issues with it.

It just works

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Haven’t used mine for 2 years, but it worked with the first toner for over a decade now.

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Another vote for the Brother monochrome laser printer. My LH-23200 has needed toner once since 2017, and a four pack of toner from Brother costs about $30.

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I’ve heard the lady who fucked up HP has been hired to the board of Brother, though. So who knows how long this sort of thing will last.

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I’m not finding anyone who fits that description here or here so hopefully that’s not correct.

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Thank you, brother. Which brand do you recommend?

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Second! I love my brother

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Yup.

A few years ago I needed to print something for a job I was applying for and I had three inkjets, none of which worked. Replacement ink wasn’t even a guaranteed solution and was going to cost three figures anyway…so I started looking into whether there was a better option.

Ended up buying a Brother color laser printer. A bit spendy, but now when I need to print something after not printing for months, I just literally tell it to print and it gets it exactly right, first try, every time.

Zero regrets.

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Inkjet 2D printers are terrible because they are purposefully designed to milk their owners for money in the form of overpriced ink cartridges. Often the printer itself is sold at a loss and the manufacturer’s single goal is to profit off of the sale of consumables. Inkjet itself is a technology that’s inherently fraught, due to the possibility of ink drying out. It’s the same reason most people don’t use fountain pens anymore, because the principle and pitfalls are basically exactly the same. (Says the guy who owns like 427 fountain pens. So I like to be contrarian; do as I say, not as I do.)

The answer to your question on what to recommend is a laser printer. No contest.

A lot of people like Brother laser printers. I would avoid anything by HP (for pretty much everything, not just printers). I personally have a Canon color laser printer which has been pretty good to me so far.

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I have a tank printer which I got like 5 years ago? It still works and the ink is pretty cheap even if you buy first party. We are still using the ink the printer came with 5 years after. The print quality can suffer if I don’t use it for over a month but the maintenance job has always fixed the issue so far.

I don’t doubt laser printers are great. I’m just offering a potential 2ndary option.

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The Epson EcoTank. Yeah, I went through three of those under warranty before I gave up. I bought my color laser immediately thereafter.

Epson’s design decisions with those, at least of the generation I had, were worse than questionable. The ink tanks are not sealed, so your ink slowly dries out and thickens. Then the print head clogs. Dust can also work its way in under the caps. There is no way to drain the tanks for transport, cleaning, or removing expired ink (except to use a long syringe) and there is no consumer accessible way to purge or clean the lines inside, either. The print head is also not removable for cleaning or replacement. If it gets gummed up and the printer’s inbuilt cleaning song-and-dance with the wipe pad can’t fix it, you are capital F fucked.

Epson then instructs you to drain the ink tanks before sending your unit in for warranty work, knowing full well that they did not include any provision whatsoever to allow you to do so. Genius! After the warranty expires, the machine is landfill. It is not feasibly serviceable by the average end user.

Needless to say, I do not recommend the Epson EcoTank line. It’s great that you’re having good results with yours, though. I certainly didn’t with any of the three I had.

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There’s more than just Epson. There are Canon ink tanks too, and probably Brother.

All are super easy to dismantle and clean if need be.

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Three?! Wow that’s insane. The QA on these must be terrible. I guess if you luck out it’s great lmao.

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Sounds like the consensus. I also have a dye sublimation printer for photos (Canon Selphy) and it never fails. We’ve used it as a “near instant photobooth” at weddings, put probably a thousand photos through it, and photos today looks as great as the day we bought it.

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The dye sub printers are doggedly reliable because basically the entire print mechanism is actually in that CYMK film cartridge, and every time you replace it you get a whole new everything. The printer itself only encompasses the linear heating element and paper handler and doesn’t have to contain any ink/toner/pigment handling hardware at all.

But that’s also why the things are so damn expensive per print. They’re excellent for the singular purpose of printing photos, which admittedly is what they’re marketed for, but lousy at everything else.

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A lot of people like Brother laser printers. … I personally have a Canon color laser printer which has been pretty good to me so far.

I recently got a color laser printer and in my research is seems like the consensus is that Brother is very solid for printers overall, but Canon seems to be a bit better at the price point for color laser. Very happy with it so far.

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At this point it might just be more reliable to print a 1 layer thick text document on my 3D printer.

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I suggested that to my kid the other day. Print a few layers of white, then swap to black filament. As it was an assignment for school my spouse vetoed it :(

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First, avoid inkjets. They need to be used regularly to work reliably. If you don’t print, they will periodically blast ink through, till they run out. If you leave them turned off, the ink dries, and they clog up.

For day to day. A colour laser is the best bet. More expensive, and they struggle with photos, but they just keep on going. 1 refill costs 5x the cost of an inkjet, but will do 50x the prints.

If you need photos, a dye sublimation printer is the way forward. They are expensive to run, but create professional grade photos. The consumables also keep indefinitely.

As for brands. Brother is the best bet. They quietly produce the battle tanks of printers. They do 1 job very well, no faffing, no unnecessary bells and whistles.

In short, a brother colour laser printer is exactly what you are asking for.

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Brother laser printer ftw. I think I spent $40 on it years ago, it’s never failed after hundreds of pages, and is still on the original toner. There’s a good chance it will be the last paper printer I ever buy.

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Brother laser printers are like the Soviet era Lada of printers. They are small, affordable, and you cannot kill them. No weird features that sounded great when buying, no stupid “pc load letter”, just pure core function. Keep it fed and it’ll print for 20 years.

We had an hl2030 for 15 years, and all it took to keep it running that time, was some fresh toner (which was surprisingly cheap) and a new fuser (once!). 15 years of 1500-2000 pages a year at its peak. I’ve been on dates that were more expensive than that printer’s TCO.

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Same, shit just works. I don’t even want anything I print to be color, by design, because it always is terrible anyway.

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