I’ll go first. Mine is that I can’t stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It’s like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds

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I like The Last Jedi.

That should be controversial enough.

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I didnt hate it, i just thought it was too predictable.

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I think this is more popular than you think. Most serious SW fans appreciate Rian Johnson’s attempt to take the franchise somewhere it had never been before, storytelling-wise, and the shitty retcon-fest that was ROS seems to have made it better by comparison. I’ve seen plenty of people online say it’s the best aged film out of the sequel films.

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Love TFA. Love TLJ. Love parts of ROTS but it’s… rough. Not a movie I’ll choose to rewatch without a really strong reason. Most of it is so disjointed. You can tell there were so many ideas that were cut from the movie and things that were put together in ways that weren’t. Then there’s that fucking dagger…

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Weird you could replace the phantom menace with rots, dagger with “podracer” and your have another completely true sentence!

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The movie was alright.

“Somehow the emperor returned” was terrible.

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“Somehow the emperor returned” was terrible.

Okay. Rise of Skywalker is a walking pile of dog shit that has a wildly inconsistent take on everything. However. I have never had a single problem with that line and I am stunned so many people did. That was a rebel talking to other rebels. Why, exactly, would they know anything about how Palpatine returned? Dude was on a planet out in the middle of uncharted space. I literally cannot think of another way for them to tell each other that Palpatine returned without evoking vague imagery like that. They literally do not know what happened.

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It’s not about the line itself, but more the sentiment behind it. The fact that the Emperor is just suddenly back without any buildup or hinting in the previous two movies is the problem.

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“The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast, a threat of REVENGE in the sinister voice of the late EMPEROR PALPATINE.

Because it makes zero sense. What possible reason would Palpatine reveal himself. It’s not just against logic, it’s against character. Yes, that particular line was a rebel talking to a rebel, but it shouldn’t have happened at all.

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I can only speak for myself, but it wasn’t so much the line as the hand-waving that came with it. It was more that I found the line relatable, but you’re right about it being appropriate for the scene.

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It makes sense that the rebels didn’t know about it. It doesn’t make sense that the first the audience hears about it is that line. It feels lazy. They could have mentioned, in an offhand way, that the remnants of the Empire is pursuing cloning tech. Not only would this tie the final trilogy to the second trilogy. (First? Episodes 1-3, anyway) But it would also make that line make way more sense.

As as much as the Thrawn trilogy feels like bad fanfic, it does tie the whole clone wars/rebellion thing together, and features someone who comes back as a clone. I think it would have made a way better trilogy than what we got.

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Because it was just saying out loud what hollywood writers have been doing on movies for a while. “somehow this movie happens. Just pay us.”

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The problem is the movie didn’t show him returning. Instead they’re just like hey Palps is back! With absolutely no lead up or anything. They should have actually shown the message or whatever it was he sent out to get everyone all worked up in the first place. Then that line wouldn’t have sounded so cheap.

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All I could think of when he said that was, Princess Bunhead in Thumbwars: “I escaped somehow, let’s go!”

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Remember when they snuck off on some escape ship to go get help for their crew in imminent danger and then decided to dick around on some horse racing casino planet? It’s like they completely forgot why they were there. I thought TLJ had some neat ideas but I don’t know how anyone can overlook that weird loss of urgency in the middle of the film. It’s like your house is on fire and your family is trapped upstairs, so you run over to a neighbor’s house to call the fire department, but you discover that they got some dog fighting thing going on in the backyard so you decide to go deal with that first, then you call the fire department but it turns out the dispatcher was in cahoots with the arsonist who started it in the first place, and then you return home with your tail between your legs and your mom didn’t even know you had left. The whole second act could have been a dream sequence and it wouldn’t have changed a thing.

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If you rip out everyone involved in the casino planet, you have a really cool dark and surprising twist on the franchise. The only really interesting things in the whole trilogy happened in The Last Jedi

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Best film from the 9. Has a very good story and leaves you wondering what is going on. It was exactly what it needed to be and did it in some new ways with older call backs. Seriously such a good flick.

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Not controversial. You like what you like.

Now, if you had said something like “The Last Jedi is a good movie.” Well, that’s demonstrably untrue.

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Nah. Disagree. It is a good movie.

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It LOOKS good, I’ll give you that. The salt planet with the red soil was inspired.

It’s too bad Rian Johnson didn’t get an average 5th grader to proof read the script.

For example:

Leia and Rey have this touching scene where Leia gives her this tracking gem that will let her come back to the fleet no matter where they go.

Then, in the VERY SAME SCENE, the New Order pops out of hyperspace and another character says, out loud, “they tracked us through hyperspace???!? THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!!!”

First - you literally just explained how yes, it was possible 2 sentences ago.

Second - Tracking devices have been a thing since the first Star Wars.

“TARKIN You’re sure the homing beacon is secure aboard their ship? I’m taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work.”

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Liking a film that 91% of critics gave a positive rating is controversial?

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Adam Sandler would be under a bridge smoking yabba if we went by his “critical reviews”

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He is now, but it’s because HE CHOOSES TOO!

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Right? Like totalky different context ;)

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Adam Sandler, Ben Stiller, Owen Wilson, etc are corney as fuck, but in a fun way. You can throw shit at the wall as long as you do it in an entertaining way.

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My fave “movies” are random shit I made as a teenager or other random works of random auteurs.

I love low-production value, its just funnier and way more creative in a necessity type sense

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Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson are great, imo.

Adam Sandler sucks nuts and his movies are the dumbest shit ever made. And not funny-dumb, but annoying.

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Most critics are frustrated artists.

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https://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom/

In a “so bad it’s good” way?

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I’m not giving “Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey” a chance.

However, “Santa Claus Conquers the Martians” looks like a must-see holiday movie this year.

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Santa Claus Conquers the Martians was done up by the MST3k folks, if you’re into that. Personally I’d prefer that experience over the original

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It’s easy to hate popular things. Makes people feel edgy.

https://xkcd.com/2184/

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Horror films are where art flourishes and it has a huge culture of being outside of Hollywood which is just a plus. Also the acting is usually way better

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I’m not sure whether to update or downvote. The first sentence doesnt seem too controversial, but hoo boy you nailed it on the second lol

Screw it, upvoted.

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I think you’re right and maybe that’s why I prefer horror movies so much over literally all else. And to your point about being outside of Hollywood, I really appreciate it when I don’t recognize any of the actors. It makes it much more immersive for me. Usually much better camera work and lighting too. And Less CGI - atleast the better ones. I hate it when the whole screen is just really good animation :(

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Ouiji was the worst offender of this. The first half of the movie, it’s got some of my favorite subtle directing in it, keeping you on your toes, then BAM. Halfway through they’re showing the creature in full view and it’s some generic black goo. Not scary at all. Would have been way better if the horror never showed its face.

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Horror is a divisive genre, because it has some of the higher highs, but also many of the lowest lows.

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I never really watched any horror movies until this October we binge watched almost 40 movies from that genre.

I agree, some of the absolute greatest films are from that genre, and you can find very interesting stuff from there if you dig a bit.

I’m now kind of mad at how I didn’t find Evil Dead earlier in my life. Or The Texas Chain Saw Massacre…

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Evil Dead 1&2, Army of Darkness are some of my favorite movies growing up. Just rewatched The Howling and it was good but not as good a American Werewolf in London. Friday the 13th and the Hellrazor series were awesome. Lost boys etc. The Gate. Pet Cemetery, Sometimes They Come Back and Cats Eye I thought were great Stephen King adaptations. I really enjoyed The Cube for its creativity and small set.

Still its the SciFi horrors get me the most. Alien series was awesome and Event Horizon were awesome. Something about having nowhere to escape to I think.

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Talking about Stephen King, Misery is a great movie.

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Most horror movies have worse acting than a porno.

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There is no accounting for taste. Who’s to say what’s a better actor?!

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Indiana Jones is boring.

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I’ll add, the events would likely be the same with his absence.

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You’re referring specifically to Raiders of the Lost Ark. Jones did things in Temple of Doom and Last Crusade.

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I liked Matrix Revolutions from the beginning.

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I’ll do you one better: I loved Matrix Resurrection. Great satire and the real sequel to the first one

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Its amazing how many people think that the movie is a genuine attempt at a sequel.

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it’s a genuine atttempt to kill the franchise (in a good way)

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It’s a brilliant ironic send-up of the need for a sequel for the first 30 minutes … and then it descends into unironically just continuing the story of Reloaded & Revolutions, but with bad action scenes this time.

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If you take the middle 15 minutes (return home to rave) scene out of the second matrix movie, I’m convinced it makes the entire trilogy 10x better.

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