Seriously. Who is the Hungarian government and what’s its their play in the EU?

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They basically get their politicians bribed by the EU to have a buffer between Russia. But their politicians are also in Putins pocket so it’s like bribe war

The population isn’t seeing a cent of the EU bribe money and they’re pretty angry about it.

The EU citizens don’t understand why Hungarians are mad when they’re receiving so much money.

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The population isn’t seeing a cent of the EU bribe money and they’re pretty angry about it.

That’s on their own elected government. Not the EU.

And stupid to call it “bribe” money. This money SHOULD go to the people and development for the country.

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Victor Orban is a fascist and he’s spent the last 13 years seeking to turn Hungary into a fascist state. He controls the judiciary. He controls the media. He scapegoats Jews, Muslims and refugees for the country’s problems. He aligns himself with Putin.

Fascists inherently don’t like cross-border cooperation and supranational governance - it runs against all their beliefs about their nation’s superiority. So he doesn’t like the EU either and blames it for things to his domestic audiences. There is no press freedom in Hungary and so Hungarian voters get bombarded with this nonsense.

The EU needs to recognise that an enemy of European civilisation has been given the keys to the castle. That is a dangerous situation. It is time to invoke Article 7 to recognise that Hungary is acting against the EU’s founding values, and remove Hungary’s veto.

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How can this dude look at himself and believe anything about superiority? Or Hungary, a mediocre country at best.

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It used to be an empire. And conmen can get rich by telling people that it could be one again.

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As a hungarian i completely agree with this. I think its hopeless so im moving away…

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Hey, my wife and her sister moved away about 12 years ago … it was absolutely the right thing for both of them.

Anyone even halfway intelligent is better off moving away from Hungary. I feel sorry for those who can’t speak a foreign language and thus are stuck there.

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i assume to Austria

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Nope not even close. Sweden

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You didn’t mention, but they have a good line in scapegoating LGBT people too. They follow Russia as close as possible on that front.

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One thing you neglected to mention is the rampant corruption which tends to involve EU money going into projects run by people close to Orban. Orban somehow manages to massively profit off EU money while running ad campaigns villainizing EU leader-du-jour (currently von der Leyen) as being a puppet of George Soros. Anywho, that’s why the EU regional aid money being blockaded is such a big deal to Hungarian leadership.

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Yeah, the short version is: Fascism is what’s wrong with Hungary.

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Isn’t another part of the problem is how rural the population is? With a population of 9m, only 1.7m live in Budapest, and the second biggest city is only 200k. The rural population only consumes Hungarian propaganda and doesn’t get any other perspective.

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Their only play is money. Everything else is secondary. All money from the EU is funneled to Hungarian companies controlled by Orban’s cronies, so they always get their (large) share.

At the same time they build up a very solid media control (made easier because Hungarian is an isolated language -the next related one would be finnish- and foreign language skills (apart from Russian) are low for most of the rural population at least) alongside some typical voter manipulation (where others want to get rid of FTP-voting he introduced it, so classical US-style gerrymandering is possible). And those people get fed anti-EU narratives 24/7 and believe most of that bullshit to reelect Orban time and time again.

So you basically have this wannabe-dictator that spends most of his time loudly complaining about the EU for his brain-washed domestic audience, while behind closed doors he will then agree to basically every EU compromise as long as is comes with more EU money and let’s him save face as the strong and independent guy fighting the evil EU…

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He also doesn’t have problems meddling into other countries. In Slovenia he spent a lot of money into right wing political party owned awful media that’d die otherwise.
Edit: type due->die

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Orban sucks off Putin like the GOP and Heritage Foundation. He’s trying to melt the EU from within. What more do you need to know?

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