On Wednesday twitch changed their site rules to allow artistic nudity. The policy allowed streams to display nonsexual nudity as long as the stream is tagged, so that the stream would be hidden from the front page. Twitch rescinded the policy 2 days later.

the gamer rage about ‘titty streamers’ has to be documented like wtf is going on with that (misogyny)

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A lot of it is misogyny, especially in the case of so called titty streamers that are really just women wearing normal clothes (leggings, tops with midriff) and then being hypersexualised.

However, I also think some of it’s because in a lot of cases these people are shit at the games and not very entertaining. At the start of it I remember certain ‘titty’ youtubers were using fake gameplay. Their content is more based on sexual parasocial relationships. It doesn’t really belong in the same space as a bunch of other entertainers.

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Twitch is a cam site. They can’t be mad they have cam girls

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Or that cam girls score higher in the scale of what gamers brains want to see.

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Twitch has a some streams that are literally a woman in body paint or pasties jumping for money. Some (not all) of the titty streamer complaints are about this, not women playing games in a swoop neck.

AFAIK the most recent rule changes don’t address this, it’s still allowed, but you can’t stream yourself drawing a naked person.

Doesn’t really fit into my point, but here’s the funniest ban during the brief window where drawn nudity was allowed: https://x.com/baalbuddy/status/1735397897242579068?s=20

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So weird the moral panic that was happening from this lmao. People are way too obsessed with kids seeing nudity, every generation grew up trying to see porn, from boomer magazines to fuzzy ppv on channels you didn’t have access to to sneaking it on a laptop, I don’t see how this is effectively different lol.

Whatsmore is that there’s this pretending like the Internet isn’t one giant ecosystem. There’s literally nothing stopping kids from opening up pornhub, or if it’s blocked some other million sites to choose from, on another tab and saying they’re 18 lol. Why does it fucking matter if twitch allows some nudity on there?

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Why does it fucking matter if twitch allows some nudity on there?

It does to advertisers who don’t want their product associated with that. Also, Hexbear doesn’t allow nudity / porn partly because it doesn’t fit the culture that the mod team wants to cultivate, same goes for Twitch

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partly because it doesn’t fit the culture that the mod team wants to cultivate, same goes for Twitch

What fucking culture ARE they trying to promote on twitch? Kinda seems like the platform is basically designed for cam porn.

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26 points

As one YouTube comment I saw elegantly put it

The cam site finally became a cam site

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23 points

same goes for Twitch

nah, they also promote joining the military and beer to children. they’re just caving to weird incel nerds who wont shut up about this. it has nothing to to with any kind of moral imperative

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I think they’re most likely caving to advertisers. Not g*mers.

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I think hexbear does allow nudity so long as it’s properly tagged as nsfw, but not porn. I’ve definitely seen some butts on here

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Someone linked a video of themselves lactating while “a red sun rises” played. That got removed but it did happen

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it’s weird to compare hexbear and twitch, different websites for different things with a vastly different budget to moderate things on. like we exist here on a nothing budget for a niche audience, while twitch is MASSIVE in comparison

i guess i think of major websites as sort of central hubs of the web, so it’s odd to cordon off it like this, similar to tumblrs banning of adult content

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Apparently this is a hot take: porn should be age-gated.

Nudity isn’t the same thing as porn and while you can argue that twitch’s new policy bans too much, it’s inarguable that many streams were pornographic. Kids shouldn’t be suggested streams of girls twerking on their Fortnite website.

Also I think pornhub and similar porn sites should do more to filter out children.

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it’s not a hot take, it’s what everyone is saying in the discourse. i’m saying there’s nothing to be done about it and kids looking for porno and finding it before they’re of age is a ubiquitous experience throughout multiple generations and i do not think this is particularly different.

you can dislike this but i mean it’s just reality.

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Yeah some people on the Internet act like kids start (or should start) puberty at 18. they don’t, sorry guys. The answer is actually decent sex ed and specifically teaching them how to protect themselves from creeps, not trying to gate porn behind a driver license or whatever the Mormons think of next

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There is something to be done about it… like not hosting porn on the same website that kids use to watch Minecraft, for starters. And it’s being shown to everyone, not just people that are looking for it.

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Porn should not be in spaces not specifically for it. It’s distracting and at times disgusting when it’s where it doesn’t belong.

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yeah there should be a filter for it sure

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just don’t have it. Common spaces should not be full of porn

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Is the former policy why I saw a screenshot of some greased up girl without a top on twitch?

I don’t think twitch could possibly be used for “artistic” nudity tbh. It would just become a cam porn site, which it almost is anyway.

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Yes. There was a surge of streams that were testing the boundaries of the new rule. I think Twitch may have revoked the rule because they were overwhelmed by how many streams were testing the limits.

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testing the limits.

yeah, testing the limits of how big of a dick and balls would fit on their drawing of a wolf-man.

get that bread while they’ll let you i guess.

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Considering the history of streamers testing the limits, they must have known what would happen

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Is the former policy why I saw a screenshot of some greased up girl without a top on twitch?

depending on the girl she might’ve been dressed and using a suggestive camera angle. if you saw female-presenting nipples i’m thinking of someone else.

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IIRC it was framed so the image ended before any nipples so she could have been wearing some kind of top ig

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The latest policy doesn’t change that. They rolled back depictions of nudity, but not any of the rules around actual people.

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Is it artistic nudity if you titty stream if you play Bach in the background?

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Yes, and everyone should do it

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female presenting breasts lol topless men aOKAY then? pre op trans guys with hairy tits alright? non passing trans women?

this community concern just stinks to me that some capital G gamers are upset they can’t keep women out of gaming, it’s about ethics in video game streaming or something

i’ll never understand live entertainment outside of people’s obsession with the thrill of seeing a mistake anyway, ala Janet Jackson, give me carefully curated scripted content, or give me death

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Though the distinction between girl boobs and boy boobs is silly, that’s a cultural thing not a twitch thing. Have you been on twitch much? It was filled with low-key porn streams of nude streamers & artists drawing smut and high-key porn streams of women twerking.

(And I know the distinction between porn/not porn is blurry but if you saw them you’d get it)

I don’t think gamers are the community with the concerns, if anything, they’re mad that twitch is kicking out their cam girls.

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i’ve spent far more time lurking in manosphere adjacent spaces than I have on twitch, and that definitely colours a lot of the views I have about online interactions lol

I hope you’re right

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The new policy hasn’t really done anything yet. Go to twitch right now and choose to watch an art stream. I guarantee you’ll see a whole bunch of twerking - I saw 4 streams without needing to scroll down. (also several artists drawing skimpy women with massive dobonhonkeros)

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