Tainted cinnamon applesauce pouches that have sickened scores of children in the U.S. may have been purposefully contaminated with lead, according to FDA’s Deputy Commissioner for Human Foods Jim Jones.

“We’re still in the midst of our investigation. But so far all of the signals we’re getting lead to an intentional act on the part of someone in the supply chain and we’re trying to sort of figure that out,” Jones said in an exclusive interview. The pouches found to be contaminated were sold under three brands — Weis, WanaBana and Schnucks — that are all linked to a manufacturing facility in Ecuador. The FDA says it’s conducting an inspection of that facility.

“My instinct is they didn’t think this product was going to end up in a country with a robust regulatory process,” Jones said. “They thought it was going to end up in places that did not have the ability to detect something like this.”

20 points

I read the article. Is this because lead has a sweet, appealing flavor? I remember reading this was a huge problem at certain times and places.

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We used to put fucking formaldehyde in milk for infants

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It keeps the babies fresh.

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Helps stiffen up them joints. Gives ‘em a lil structure.

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Ancient Romans used it to sweeten wine. Also why kids used to be fond of eating lead paint chips. Slightly sweet.

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So this was driving me nuts, so I had to look it up. I thought I dreamed it.

Apparently, this continued for centuries, and may have contributed to Beethoven’s illness and death.

I think I actually read about it in a thread here on Lemmy.

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That would be similar to that fucked up thing that happened in China where some corrupt companies were putting a plastic resin in milk to cheat protein level tests.

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It happens in all the poorer Asian countries with turmeric too, https://www.economist.com/asia/2023/11/02/bangladesh-strikes-a-blow-against-lead-poisoning – classic capitalism, if they can make a couple of dollars more they won’t even lose a night’s sleep over poisoning millions of people.

We really do need to fund food safety organisations well, these regulations and authorities the right wing keep trying to get rid of are incredibly important to our safety and wellbeing.

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Absolutely. The US Conservative jerk-off about ‘regulation harming the economy’ is one of their most ridiculous and disingenuous/ignorant positions. It’s easy to see what happens with lack of regulation - people all the way from seniors to infants get poisoned by lazy and greedy business owners.

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Yeah, this wasn’t someone with a grudge against children poisoning their food, this was an willfully negligent decision made by the producers to make the product more profitable

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Lead(II,IV) Oxide (aka red lead) is sometimes used to color low-quality cinnamon to look better. Much like yellow led is sometimes used to color turmeric. Toxic, of course, but profitable!

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Is there a way that someone can test for this at home? It seems troubling that children had to be poisoned before any action was taken.

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What the fuck

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Wow. Eat organic and local I guess?

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Or avoid processed foods and just eat plain apples. If you can. Sometimes they’re hard as rocks.

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Geez where are you getting your apples?

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Black Market Minerals, they’re branching out into fresh produce in my neighborhood. I think.

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Lead is organic.

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Organic = contains carbon. Lead, as a base metal, does not contain carbon. So lead is definitively not organic.

The problem is, all that food that isn’t labeled as organic? It is organic. Which is why that label is really fucking stupid.

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That’s organic chemistry which is very different from the definition of organic food.

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I can’t believe any parent would walk right past the organic/local section at the dollar store and pick up lead pouches instead, but here we are.

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we’re trying to sort of figure that out

Well that inspires confidence.

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I think it’s just a literal quote of how he spoke, and not an attempt at waffling around an answer. The guy seems to have a goal in mind in the article.

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Why does child food need to be produced thousands of miles away?

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Seriously. Take an apple, throw it in a blender. That was easy.

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Great, now you’ve added arsenic but forgot the cinnamon. Not so easy after all, was it?!

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That is indeed the core problem.

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Sorry, I’ll provide more detailed instructions.

  • cut the apple in two. Remove the seeds and stem
  • add spices and maybe sugar
  • gently place it into a blender, with filtered water as needed
  • turn it on
  • pour it into something

I guess if we’re dealing with people who don’t understand the basics of food, they might want to buy leaded applesauce from Ecuador since their kids are probably doomed anyway.

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And that doesn’t even tackle the problem of getting it pasteurized to rid it of microorganisms or trying to keep it shelfstable for more than a few days of transport, let alone getting it on the shelf long enough to be sold. 

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Thank you for that comment, made me genuinely laugh aloud.

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Cheap labor, mostly.

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Ah, right. How much are the CEOs making as compared to their lowest paid workers?

I know you’re not trying to justify it. Just some horse balls is all.

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Just some horse balls is all.

Those went into the peach cobbler.

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Even if they moved production back to the US, they would just raise prices so we’re paying more.

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It’s perfectly fine to do that because it increases economic prosperity across the globe, as long as we have regulatory controls. I don’t know, but I think finding this out and being able to find the source of contamination is a win for the FDA, and shows that some part of the process in place does work.

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