71 points

All I can say is that both sides are wrong. Israel is an apartheid state. I was born Jewish but I do not have to side with Israel. I am far from an antisemite. Evil is evil.

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64 points

Israel and Hamas are wrong.

Palestinians are simply victims.

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I wholeheartedly agree with you. They are victims and they are being kept that way.

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So how can you so easily say both sides are wrong?

If a twelve year old child and thirty-five year old MMA fighter had beef because of the thirty-five year old’s actions, would you say both of them are wrong? Power dynamics should easily change optics here

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Hamas is wrong?

Seems to me as if they are the only ones lifting a finger against the white supremacist settler-colonialist state that is threatening Palestinians with extermination.

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sure, but if you look at literally ANYTHING ELSE about them you’ll see what we mean.

they’re a far right religious extremist organization that wants for Palestine what the Taliban is doing in Afghanistan. they don’t want to stop oppression, they just think it’s affecting the wrong people right now. that region well not get less shitty with them in power.

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Yes.

Hamas are right wing religious ethno-nationalists who haven’t even allowed an election in 20 years.

There’s a reason Netanyahu and other far-right Israelis keep propping up Hamas and weakening the PLO.

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6 points

2 wrongs don’t make a right. Neither side should be proud of their actions here

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The side resisting the genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist state is far less wrong.

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3 points

Most Israelis aren’t white.

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Yeah… Israel’s political institutions are paragons of racial diversity.

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Hamas definitely isn’t in the wrong anymore. No rape, no decapitation, extremely targeted attacks against military.

These new numbers make Hamas look like angels.

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Your comment is as wrong as two left shoes. Ain’t nothing right about it.

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44 points

They claimed 1,300 were killed, and that number turns out to be wrong…

…meanwhile they’ve killed over 13,000 Palestinians. It’s not an eye for an eye, it’s genocidal murder.

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It’s over 18,000 Palestinians now.

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And that’s most likely an undercount. Those are the official numbers from the health department, and they only count casualties that go through their system. They don’t know what’s happening in IDF occupied areas, or how many bodies are still under rubble that nobody is able to dig out.

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Don’t include Hamas terrorists with Palestinian civil casualties.

They are two separate things, which are counted separately.

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Don’t include Hamas terrorists with Palestinian civil casualties.

Do tell… does the IDF follow Vietnam rules? Ie, does a Palestinian child only count as “half-a-terrorist” to the genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist state?

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You still didn’t provide the correct numbers.

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5 points

The Israeli estimates, with the assumption ALL men above 18 are “combatants”, is that it’s 61% civilian casualties. The real number is probably 90%+ civilian deaths because there’s no meaningful targeting at all, there’s endless reports of them shooting at anything that moves.

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33 points

IDF definitely murdered a bunch of civilians with helicopter spray and pray.

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I’ve seen mention of this a couple times but don’t really know what people are referring to though I follow bourgeois and proletarian international news media. Do you know a source you could point me to about this?

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Murder and torture of unarmed elders, women and babit is purely heinous, no matter the scale.

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1400 to 700 civilians.

Now lets invistigate why they are trying to hide how many the IDF killed of those 700.

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I have seen two credible accounts so far: a tank killing 14 and another instance of 3 civilians allegedly being held hostage.

But I have seen credible accounts from witnesses indicating a lot of confused firing with no way to fully determine what the results were.

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