22 points

While this is piracy adjacent, good on Amazon and Tolkien’s estate for shutting down that trash lol

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46 points

lol, Amazon’s LOTR was trash.

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7 points

So much money, just absolutely wasted.

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11 points

I don’t even like Tolkien (find his writing to be just excessive, I don’t need to know the color of the buttons on the shirt of the dead character with no name), and even I have to agree, lol.

Too many re-interpretations of authors’ works. Tolkien is highly detailed - not reflecting that (or worse, substituting your own details) in a movie or show is just hubris. If you’re so damn good why don’t you write your own shit. Oh, your name doesn’t sell instantly is why.

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We’ve seen this with the Witcher, we’ve seen it with GoT, we’ve seen it with LOTR: super artistic production teams which have their heads so deep up their own arses and are entrenched so deeply inside that weird removed-from-reality Hollywood bubble that they legitimately think they know better how to interpret the lore some world renowned author made than the author himself. Always ends in mediocre showsand hilarious interviews with said production teams where

a) everybody is wrong but them
b) bUt OuR vIsIoN

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Holy shit is that article a heap of bigoted trash ramblings. I mean, I get that people disliked the series but this is full on Andrew Tate shit.

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14 points

I quite liked it, personally.

I imagine saying that is going to be treated as an admission of heresy here though.

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My problem is that Galadriel was treated like an impatient, naive child by other characters when in Tolkien’s Lore she is already well-respected and older than most others.

Why? Because female? Bullshit, she was already strong and established by the time the events in Amazon’s LotR take place. They dumbed her down and made her look like an impulsive idiot incapable of seeing evil when that’s literally her whole character.

The showrunners did not give Galadriel the respect she deserved.

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3 points

The story lines they fabricated were (mostly) formulaic, the effects were (mostly) poor, and the characters were (mostly) unlikable. Apart from that I liked it! :P

It had a few moments that I enjoyed but overall it fell flat because the characters where flat.

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5 points

To me, it just seemed … dull. Like, the conversations characters were having weren’t interesting. What was happening on screen wasn’t interesting. I felt myself suddenly snapping back to reality several times each episode after my mind aimlessly drifted away from what I was watching. And I’m someone who doesn’t need Michael Bay explosions and constant action to enjoy a tv show. Really hope they turn it around and do something interesting with it. Absolute snooze fest.

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It was but I can’t imagine how trashy this would have been if it came to light. We don’t need fan fiction to be confused with cannon.

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282 points

In my opinion LotR should’ve already entered the public domain but thanks to Disney well have to wait until 2044 for that.

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30 points

Reasonable takes like this hurt daddy’s profits… is u a domestic terrorist?

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19 points

Worse, a foreign one

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12 points

Obama coming out of retirement to authorize this drone strike!

“We will not stand by while our national security interests are being assaulted by the axis of evil”

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31 points

Embracer is gonna be the next one to beg for an extension.

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4 points

Apparently it did for a short while in the US, but not anymore.

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12 points

Such optimism that it wont be extended again.

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21 points

Steamboat Willie, the first Mickey Mouse cartoon, will become public domain in literally 13 days.

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12 points

Only because it’s not as important for them to keep it, they make a lot of money from other properties

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You can’t just extend copyright indefinitely. It’s not like a patent, where you can make minute changes and claim it’s a new product. The original works have a copyright limit of 95 years after the first date of publish (thanks Disney and other corporate lobbyists).

If we go by The Return of the King, it was published in 1955. That means the words, the story, the settings, and the characters will be public domain in 2050. Steamboat Willie, on the other hand, was published in 1928. That means it expires at the end of this year. Unless Disney can convince Congress to change copyright law again, these copyrights all have hard expiration dates.

ETA: Disney might have a case where they can claim copyright on the information they added or changed from the original works, just like how they can still claim copyright over Mickey after losing Steamboat Willie.

And I’m sure they will, because fuck society, amirite? /s

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3 points

They already do. Winnie the Pooh is public domain but not Disneys version the one everyone thinks of.

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4 points

Works made for hire are 95 years from publication. LotR is not a work for hire, so it goes by life of the author plus 75 years. It goes public domain in 2044.

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25 points

It may as well be, they’re endorsing all sorts of shit content lately (like the Golem game, or the ring of power)

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I haven’t played the gollum game, but rings of power was actually good tho

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10 points

Do yourself a favor and don’t play the Gollum game

It’s really bad

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1 point

Tbh they seem to be a lot more “hands off” with non-canon stuff, which I think includes all of the LOTR/middle earth licensed games, and that’s not a bad thing imo.

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5 points

The books go into public domain in 20 years. Now that Christopher Tolkien is out of the way (who tended to block a lot of stuff, for better or worse) , the current heirs want as much out of it as they can.

20 years might sound like a lot, but that’s about as much time as between the Peter Jackson movies and now.

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97 points

Can’t have the already well-off children go without their steady income that they didn’t have to work for…

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50 points

Well how else are we supposed to encourage people to be related to people who develop intellectual property? It makes sense from a neponomic standpoint.

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Believe it or not, some people do work extra hard in order to ensure their descendants have an easy life. I’m not weighing in on whether that is wise or not but it is definitely a thing.

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2 points

Necromonic, even.

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3 points

LotR should’ve already entered the public domain

Where is the petition to sign up for?

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8 points

Demand reform.

30 years from publication, no exceptions.

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5 points

And for commercial purposes only. If you’re not making money off of it, you should be able to use it however you want.

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5 points

I think an argument could be made to set it to the date of death of the author. I agree with the other guy that it should only apply to commercial works though.

I also don’t think that the copyright should be transferable. The trading of ideas is an absurd concept to me. But then us humans do a lot of absurd things so I guess it’s just par for the course.

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1 point

People have a right to culture. If you grew up with a story, it’s yours now, no matter how dead the author isn’t. Past works are the foundation for everything you can make.

And if the purpose of copyright is not to encourage new works, burn it to the ground.

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4 points

Well public domain or not this changes nothing for the sailors of the high seas.

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32 points

not exactly. You can of course still get existing works by pirating them.

But if the Tolkien works entered the public domain, anyone could use them for any creative purposes freely. And yes, a lot of the new material would be trash. But some excellent works would appear to.

A good example of this is Lovecraft’s works and the Cthulhu Mythos, that although not public domain until recent years, Lovecraft encouraged others to use his own creations on their own stories, thus expanding the literary universe of his own creation. Some stories are awful, but there has also been a ton of great works based on Lovecraft’s creations that couldn’t have existed otherwise.

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Also Sherlock Holmes. Now, the BBC might have done a terrible job, but a lot of other people have written great stories because Sherlock Holmes is in the public domain

Another character in the public domain is Zeus, and the rest of his family. Liked Disney’s Hercules? Supergiant’s Hades? Netflix’s Blood of Zeus? Riordan’s Percy Jackson? Only possible because of public domain.

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14 points

Don’t worry, they’ll manage to get it extended again before 2044.

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2 points

Wow that guy died first. How deluded

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32 points

This guy was just deluded to think he was in the right or could win.

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27 points

What was this guy thinking? He was clearly violating copyright.

Is he just soft in the head, or is he up to something us not crazy people can’t see?

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25 points

First two books in the series were “Fellowship of the King” and “The Two Trees” so…I’m not entirely convinced they were even very original stories…

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3 points

I’m not a Tolkien fan and even I recognized that, haha.

Wtf.

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19 points

So the third must be “Return of the Ring.”

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13 points

Oh, is that the one where Bodo Fraggins goes on a long journey to give back to Soraun the ring he lost?

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His motivations are beyond our understanding

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