HP was indeed affordable and good. They made good laptops and laser printers for many years.
I remember Carly Fiorina getting hired and almost immediately things started turning to shit.
I don’t know, it often seems that the prior ceo (often with the help of the board) sets a company up for quick profits, but long term doom. Then he leaves and they miraculously hit their first female CEO (see GM, Yahoo, Reddit, Blizzard, Twitter (currently)).
HP is still plenty serviceable as long as you’re getting HP Enterprise. The consumer stuff has been trash for almost 20 years now.
Jokes on you. HP is moving into the energy sector with their spinning bodies with magnets attached.
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I still can’t believe his cartoon got cancelled due to reverse racism… No, seriously, I can NOT believe that he actually says that shit.
Edit to add: I’m so confused to see people agree with me in their replies but also obviously downvote me. Maybe they didn’t make it past the first sentence? Oh well, I’ve really been appreciating the discussions I’m reading!
At their “cheapest” 0.099 euro / $0.11 USD tier it is already literally cheaper per page (albeit certainly not faster) for me to print documents as 8.5x11" 0.1mm thick single layer slabs of plastic on my 3D printer.
An entire “blank” page, i.e. no cutouts for text or anything, would be about 0.754 grams of plastic. That’s about $0.0143 per page at a not-too-exorbitant retail cost of PLA filament ($18.99 USD for a kilo) and the material usage would be even less once the negative space for text is subtracted. And I don’t even have to buy the paper.
That’s mind boggling. Apparently I’m in the wrong racket.
Get a Brother laserjet.
Do you use a model with pigment inks or dye inks? I currently use a pigment based hp inkjet. I thought about switching to ecotank but the pigment refills are comparable to hp pigment cost. I assume the ecotank would get a higher page count from the same cost of ink? The pigment based ecotank models I shopped around were quite a bit more expensive than the entry level dye based models.
I’m at five years for ours. We used the included ‘teaser’ toner cartridge for almost three years. After the first year, it warned us the toner was low. We laughed and turned the warning off and it just continued to provide toner for nearly another two years.
We now have an “extra large” toner cartridge. Like owning a parrot, my wife and I expect it’ll outlast both of us and our children or grandchildren will get stuck with it. We’re both 35.
Sadly, they are also evil now. Latest firmware (~2020) outright blocks third party cartridges or, even more evil, accepts them and then secretly and intentionally, prints like crap:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31860131
Everything until ~2019 is awesome, though. Just disable firmware updates.
Holy shit, .15 euros per page? Why not just run to der Kinkos? I haven’t checked but I imagine it’s cheaper there. I get the convenience of having a printer at home but this is like if every cup of coffee you make at home cost you the Starbucks $8.25.
In the US, if you print ~52(+) B&W pages a year, HP Instant Spyware is seemingly cheaper.
FedEx Kinko’s:
Non-EU- lett Packard:
For color, HP’s cheaper once you print two pages a month.
Printing is a good excuse to walk to the local print shop. Let’s say, though, you have to drive your Honda Civic a couple miles through Los Angeles - that adds roughly thirty cents of fuel (ignoring other vehicle costs). (That’s our bestselling car in our second largest city, because you wouldn’t give up your parking spot in NYC.)
Conventional wisdom is to buy a Brother laser printer, but there’s a bit of upfront cost for the color models, which are a little larger when comparing versions with scanners to inkjet all-in-ones. Who wants to do the math on those :)
…whoh they have their own subscription!
Anyway I think this is more like having a printing-press-barista in your closet instead of going to the print-barista down the street. It could be anywhere from 76 cents more expensive to $5.80 less expensive a month. Compare to a Mr. Coffee which you’ll pay off right away by skipping Starbucks.
tl;dr let HP siphon your data, what’s the worst that could happen? 😈
You forgot about that beautiful thing also known as your local library!
Mine is around 2 miles away from my home and only charges me 10¢ per b&w sheet. Its absolutely perfect for any printing needs I may have.
Great point!
In San Francisco, it’s ten cents AND you get two bucks worth a day free.
You reminded me: sometimes local politicians will let you fax (and thus perhaps print) free at their offices.
Depends on the drink. Get a super-frappa-extrashot-sugar bomb and yeah, it’ll be $8-9 easy. A regular medium coffee is $3 or so.
The cheapest plan 0.099 Cents for each page 10 pages in the month. 1500 pages per month 54.99 € respectively.
Yeah, depending on where you live, it may be cheaper to go to your local printer shop. Plus minus cost of transport and your time.
I did not check HP’s prices to Poland. Table lists 100 pages as 0.07EUR/page. Krakow, Poland, nearby printer shop takes ~0.02-0.07EUR per A4 page, and there is no subscription. Nor doing 100 pages.
Brother printer gang printing with their tears of joy.
Here too, just don’t update your firmware (and turn off auto-updates). Brother went evil around 2020, too.
