only 54? sad
These types of polls always make me realize how doomed the Republican party is. Their guy engaged in an insurrection to stay in power after losing the election. Rather than going “yeah, you can’t do that” and picking someone else as their nominee for the next election, they’re barreling forward with the same old traitorous loser. All the while, ignoring the constitution and claiming that it’s the Democrats who are against democracy.
I know the expectation is for the U.S. Supreme Court to reverse this ruling.
However, I think there are plenty of Republicans that recognize things have gone wrong for them and would like to see Trump eliminated, particularly if they can complain that it was a terrible thing that they would never support.
Let’s be clear. Anyone who’s not spoken out about him in the Republican party is a coward.
But, I think you are right. I think quite a few aren’t taking the risk of speaking out against him because they think the courts and process will do it for them. They are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
In some ways it’s probably a smart move, but it shows the absolute lack of moral character and backbone of modern Republicans.
The Supremes will likely overturn it, but this is the best possible opportunity for the GOP to right the ship. I think if just one justice will cross and vote with the other side, Roberts goes with them. His legacy can go from Citizens United and overturning Roe to stopping the second insurrection from happening and saving democracy.
There’s also a slightly higher chance that they leave the whole thing alone and say it’s up to the states to decide. If enough states, especially swing states, bar Trump from running over the next several months, the GOP may need to call an audible at the convention.
I find it interesting that there is almost no one in the somewhat disapprove camp. More people strongly approve than somewhat approve, but clearly there is some ambivalence and nuance out there among those who approve of the decision. But if you disapprove, it’s all or nothing. Sounds about right.
I disagree. While Trump is polarizing, there are plenty of swing voters who would absolutely consider voting for a decent candidate from either party.
I am one such person. I voted for Republicans until Trump, then voted third party, then voted for Biden in 2020. I have voted for Rs, Ds, and third parties in almost every election in the last 15 years or so. I am unlikely to vote for Biden in this coming election, but I’m absolutely not voting for Trump. If a reasonable Republican gets the nomination, I may end up voting Republican.
I don’t think I’m all that unique here. There are plenty in the middle that just need decent candidates to go after their votes.
I wonder how many of them actually read the decision, and how many are just depending on what’s filtered through journalistic agendas?
The complete decision is over 200 pages of lawyer talk. I’m going to bet approximately 0, including you.
Actually reading the opinion is a pretty high bar. It seems unnecessary as well. I’d rather know who can summarized various key arguments made by the sides.
It’d be cool if some polls started with a quiz on some relevant uncontroversial facts, asked questions, then reported results based broken up by competence on the quiz.
I don’t care how many Democrats believe it’s right; I want to know how informed people think.
I read it. It’s not lawyer talk.
Edit: And I have the chat log here where I was talking with a friend about the high points while I read it. Started Tuesday 12/19 5:45p CT, ended just before 900p the same evening.
Let’s say it’s 200 pages even. You took a little less than a minute per page to read, think about, and type about topics with your friend?
Methinks dishonesty afoot.
It’s certainly not breezy bathroom reading material.
It’s certainly not breezy bathroom reading material.
It’s certainly not breezy bathroom reading material.
How can anything in this country have 24 percent of one side support and only end up at 54 percent of the total? Should be closer to 70 if that’s true. I guess somehow miraculously we never get more than 55 percent support for anything, but this stat sounds as inaccurate as me making up: 51 percent of Americans are pro choice including 20 percent of Republicans
There is a bit of a bias from the fact that there are more registered Democrats than Republicans (about 46% of population vs. 23% for Republicans), so given a random sampling of the population, the numbers work. I don’t have the numbers, but I remember hearing that Democrats were also more likely to take part in these polls overall.
