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I swapped the original article at the request of a mod to from a source deemed more reliable, but to avoid confusion when reading the comment section prior to this edit, here is the link to the original article. I chose the Relief Web source listed by some who commented. Cheers!

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Please provide corroborating story link from a credible source. I will have to remove if the story link can’t be updated to a more reputable source.

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WSWS tends to do accurate reporting in my experience.

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It was showing as middle of the road for the credibility rating, which on its own is shaky but with a corroborating report strengthens it.

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Just for the record, I checked MBFC and it said it’s highly credible and mostly factual. If MBFC is what determines these “truths about credibility”, then I don’t understand why people would report it or on what basis

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IIRC it’s considered middle of the road due to political leanings rather than the actual credibility of the reporting.

Which, tbh, is sort of concerning when evaluating credibility because political leanings do not change whether a report is factual or not.

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It was already removed by a mod and then restored. But yeah, no problem, I will find a better link and switch it now.

Edit: done

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Thank you. We were getting reports on it, and I didn’t want to remove it if it was a credible story.

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That’s eleven men.

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/un-human-rights-office-opt-unlawful-killings-gaza-city

This is bad and I don’t want to justify or defend it. But this does not indicate mass executions of civilians as policy. It could well be a platoon leader who overstepped authority.

As the report states, the UN is calling for a formal investigation. As well they should.

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Yes, just a completely consistent series of platoon leaders who systemically “overstep authority”. These are fully and totally autonomous actions… that are culturally mandated. Why everyone is so upsets?

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I assume some people think MASS KILLING and EXECUTION are just shocking words being used, when instead they just describe the ugly reality.

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What is the definition of a mass execution or massacre to you?

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When I responded, the submission went to the World Socialist Web Site. I linked above to the actual report. If you read the actual report, you see that eleven civilians were murdered. And that’s terrible. The report rightly calls for an investigation.

You ask, what is a mass execution or massacre? Well, what happened here is unlawful killings. It’s a massacre. But my point was that an investigation was needed to determine if these killings were the result of Israeli policy or an event on the ground out of the hands of actual policymakers. Which would look something a whole lot more like the Katyn Massacre, where Soviet troops murdered 22,000 people in Poland during WWII.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

This doesn’t diminish those eleven lives. But that’s the difference between state policy and a military commander gone rogue.

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When I responded, the submission went to the World Socialist Web Site. I linked above to the actual report. If you read the actual report, you see that eleven civilians were murdered. And that’s terrible. The report rightly calls for an investigation.

Yeah, no need to explain that, it was well understood the first time.

This doesn’t diminish those eleven lives. But that’s the difference between state policy and a military commander gone rogue.

I don’t know if we can assume that anymore. The whole IDF is the former. Many Palestinians aside from those died in custody in circumstances the IDF wants to investigate, and then these 11, and in the upcoming months we will hear about a lot more.

You ask, what is a mass execution or massacre?

You didn’t answer the question. Your point was clear from the first comment I responded to. There was no need for over explaining it all.

I suggest you Google mass killing and massacre and summary executions. “Mass” doesn’t imply thousands of people necessarily.

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ESH

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I think that there is more than enough justification for the Arab League to launch a retaliation at this point. I for my part would support it.

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Instead of more slaughter, I’d like to see them provide land and assistance for a new Palestine in a safe place. Instead they won’t even take in refugees.

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Palestinians should get to keep their land.

If someone broke into my house, I wouldn’t entertain moving out so as to reduce the risk of further violence.

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It would probably be safer for everyone involved for the Israelis to move away instead.

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They’re mostly American puppet states such as Saudi and Egypt. Their government doesn’t care about anything but pocketing money. American puppet Sisi was just reelected in Egypt by arresting everyone running against him.

Insurgency groups are growing though since their governments doing nothing really pisses off the civilians. They’re not directly attacking israel but instead attack israeli or American targets close to them

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Saudi has America, not the other way around. They knocked America’s towers and they sold them weapons and shook their hands.

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No Osama went out of Saudi to Afghanistan to fight the Russians with a group of Saudi Jihad warriors under American support.

Then when Russia was defeated in Afghanistan, Palestine cried for help against the Israeli genocide so Osama turned against America which was (and is) massively supporting the Israeli genocide.

The previous Saudi ruler Faisal did turn against America for Palestine and turned off the oil. Then he subsequently was assassinated by his nephew which loved America and had an all American get up. Most likely a CIA intervention but no evidence for it.

Now we have MBS, the current Saudi Leader. Hevonly wants money and will do whatever will give him the most money. He will not wage any wars (for Palestine for example). And his morals change at a whim to whatever provides the most money. He’s basically Mr Crabs.

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Only group doing that are iran proxies or Hamas affiliated terrorists.

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Against a country with nukes?

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If they’re afraid of attacking a country with nukes, they’ve already lost.

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Yep. The Arab league is a joke at this point, it has lost relevancy.

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“Those are Self defence mass executions you fucking antisemite” - Israel probably.

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Coward yanks

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