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99% is pretty impressive, most species have 100% mortality rate

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That’s an interesting point!

Any animal that changes or metamorphosises into a different animal technically has a less than 100% mortality rate

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Hmm, interesting indeed! I get what you’re trying to say, but I would also tend to believe that it’s still the same animal? If not that, then wouldn’t the caterpillar cease to exist when it metamorphosised into something else?

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Caterpillar is not actually an animal though, it’s a stage of life.

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I would also lean closer towards ‘same animal’ but its physical morphology undergoes such drastic changes its definitely blurred lines

Psychologically I think there are tests that show butterflies and moths retain memories from pre-metamorphisis stages

Metaphysical questions are so cool just because we may never be able to answer them!!!

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Animals are a social construct

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This is why the infant mortality rate isn’t 100%

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“Caterpillar” is not a species. It’s a stage of some animals’ life cycle. It means 99% of catepillars die before they become butterflies or moths or whatever

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So caterpillars do have a chance to be “immortal” and transcend instead to a superior state of existence* at the end of their time. Whoa.

*that is, unfortunately, very mortal.

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I wish it were 100% in tomato hornworms. Seeing that 99% of them die before turning into moths makes me think all of the surviving ones just hang out in my garden.

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I think noting caterpillar is the same as say infant death rate for humans

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The problem is they they’re just designed to eat and get chonky. If they had invested in cool ninja combat during evolution, scientists believe they would be not only more likely to survive, but be a lot cooler.

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Some caterpillars are cool and spiky or poisonous or venomous maybe?

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Most caterpillars are mildly poisonous since they only eat a single type of plant so they are immune to the plants poisonous effect. That gets into their fleshy hotdog body. Unfortunately most birds are also mostly immune.

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there are definitely some ninja-inspired caterpillars out there

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Due to Newtons 46th law of awesomeness, Ninjas are still cooler than spikes, but still are pretty dang cool.

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sometimes i wonder if life is sort of designed to be like that though. not in a strictly intentional intelligent way but also not in a fully accidental coincidental way.

somebody has to turn plant into food right? without them and homies like them our food system don’t work.

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It’s designed that way in the same way as a hole was designed for a puddle*. The caterpillars are evolutionarily successful because of a “spray and pray” strategy, and other species are successful because of the easy food.

Biology is an arms race, in a sense: so everything is interlinked, and affected by everything else, even if only by distant, myriad links in an unbroken web of chains. It’s the reason a lot of biologists like myself are anxious about the ecological destruction that’s been unfolding for so long. Life finds a way in the long term, but short term…it sucks to be alive when many of the things you depend on aren’t.

*This metaphor thanks to Douglas Adams

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I thought hotdogs were nature’s hotdogs.

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Little known fact, but nature abhors a vacuum and hot dogs.

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Has anyone run them through HotDogNotHotDog app analysis? Maybe they’re not just nature’s hotdogs, and we’re missing out.

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