And that they will federate with them ? (Can’t seem to find it anymore at least)

I wonder how many people we’re gonna lose over this, because I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time. I already migrated once, I’m not gonna do it again because some people can’t realize how toxic it’s going to be when they federate with us.

I see a lot of people saying they’ll just switch instances but haven’t seen anyone say they’ll just jump ship, am I alone ? Or maybe I’m missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

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It’s possible in the latest version of Lemmy. World hasn’t upgraded yet. They are also already federated with threads.

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And as OP seems to be predicting, the world has clearly ended. 😅

(not that I don’t have plenty issues with Meta, but the way lemmings talk about it only serves to further corporate agenda by essentially making all criticism seem idiotic by association)

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To each their own reasons to care or not about being federated with Threads, it’s not what this post is about.

My line about how toxic it’s gonna be is my opinion and admittedly might not have its place here in the context, but I’m only a human making a post, wondering if I’m alone or if I’m missing an option for an easy migration.

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I don’t know of an “easy” option for migration.

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They are also already federated with threads.

That’s impossible because right now Threads doesn’t even support federation.

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It does, just only with a few users. Been under rock?

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It does, just only with a few users. Been under rock?

Private pre-alpha tests with a non-public self-hosted (presumably Mastodon) instance doesn’t count. Threads doesn’t federate with the fediverse right now.

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The new 0.19.x version allows you to export and import your basic settings like subscriptions and blocks. I personally haven’t tested it though.

Otherwise, here on lemmy, activity from threads is unlikely to reach us or have too much of an impact as following lemmy communities won’t work well on their end. This presumes that they’ll be focused on implementing microblogging and mastodon compatibility, which are very fair presumptions IMO. Not saying that you shouldn’t care … just that there’s probably much more time than you think. On top of that, Threads’s implementation of federation seems to be going slowly.

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Thanks for the infos

I will see how it actually turns out, and yeah I didn’t expect an instant “everything turn to crap” moment, but good to know that there’s an option to easily migrate if need be. Although just the idea of them having any kind of access via federation really bothers me and I somewhat doubt they won’t try something to “absorb” as much people as they can into Threads, that something having many possibilities in how it could manifest.

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I’m with you.

If you haven’t seen it, here’s a great write up about federating with threads that does a really good job of outlining why there’s more to this than “but I have friends and relatives on instagram” and “isn’t it good for the fediverse to be popular?” arguments: https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads

My little tldr + hot take on the article here: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/111627736340220610

It’s by @kissane@mas.to on mastodon if you’re on there. I find myself enjoying and agreeing with just about everything they say about the fediverse and social media.

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Thanks for the shares, very interesting, it’s much worse than I thought it turns out ahah

I’m not on masto, lemmy is enough to browse for me on a daily basis but I might check out a few things there

Now, even though it might not change much to the future of the fediverse with meta meddling, I’m definitely migrating !

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Yikes

Meta’s lead for Threads, Adam Mosseri, was head of Facebook’s News Feed and Interfaces departments during that long, warning-heavy lead-up to the genocide of the Rohingya in Myanmar. After the worst of the violence was over, Mosseri noted on a podcast that he’d lost some sleep over it.

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I see a lot of people saying they’ll just switch instances but haven’t seen anyone say they’ll just jump ship, am I alone ?

I have switched instances a lot. I don’t like the idea of other people curating my feed.

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I made my own instance for this reason.

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I have considered it.

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Is it expensive? Considering doing it myself

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I had a spare computer that I installed Linux on a while back, but wasn’t using it for much at the time. If set up like that, all you would pay for is the electricity, which is very low if you’re only running Lemmy, probably only a couple of US dollars a month. You could probably run it on a raspberry pi, tbh.

Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it’s free for me.

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This is actually detrimental to the network unless you’re hosting a lot of other users. If it’s just you then you’re adding the federation load of an entire server just for your own personal use. Now all your subscriptions are a separate server pull on all the instances you subscribe to. Instead of using an existing instance that is already pulling

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I did for awhile. For me, it wasnt worth the effort. Hot tip: go ahead and switch to blob storage for pictrs or your hosting fees are gonna get expensive quick.

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What instance are you on? Voyager doesn’t even show me!

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There are probably better instances out there, but I’m on lemmy.dbzer0.com at the moment.

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Same! Maybe that’s why it doesn’t show me. It’s awesome.

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In Voyager, you can toggle showing users’ instances in Settings > Appearance.

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Thank you muchly, but I actually have that on! It still doesn’t show their instance, maybe because they’re on the same one as me.

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I don’t like the idea of other people curating my feed.

I’ll leave fediverse, so many instances in the fediverse are still federated with Threads

https://fedipact.veganism.social/?v2

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so many instances in the fediverse are still federated with Threads

Threads doesn’t support federation currently, so nobody is federated with Threads at all.

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I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time.

If that is your general approach, why are you suddenly so eager to hand over that responsibility to the instance owner? Why are you pushing for that instances should curate the feeds of all their users, rather than the users themselves?

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Fallacy much ?

Because I don’t want to be federated with threads doesn’t mean I want to hand over the curating to the instance owner, there’s such a thing as nuances.

I also formulated a wish for world to defederate, but my solution when they didn’t is to leave, you don’t see me brigading for them to absolutely do it, so please do not lend to me what I didn’t say.

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Then you can block threads yourself, as a user. It’s as easy as that. Blocking threads on the entire instance makes it so admins are curating content for users. You don’t get a choice when an instance defederates, you do when it federates. Defederation is a last resort, not a panic kneejerk reaction.

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Calling defederating Threads a “panic kneejerk reaction” is being very ignorant about who they are and what they do.

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Learn how the tool works before.

If you block an instance, u can still interract with the users (with the new features), and they can comment posts on others instances and yours, and you will see them.

You will just don’t see the Thread specific content.

You are the jerk here

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Or maybe I’m missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

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Thanks !

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