A Times investigation uncovered new details showing a pattern of rape, mutilation and extreme brutality against women in the attacks on Israel.

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I don’t see how anyone who’s paying attention to anything still believes in a god worth worshipping, if any god at all.

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Ironically, it’s probably in part due to how shit the world is you hope there is a god.

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They didn’t say they’d like for life be without a worship-worthy god. They said they’re not sure why so many people think that there’s a god worth worshipping.

By itself, their comment is really just statement of belief, not a statement of preference.

I think this is their reasoning for that position: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

For a more detailed explanation of the reasoning: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

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There was also a comment “if any god at all.” I am very familiar with theodicy questioms and euthyphro questions. And it’s not a new concept that end times mentality or need for salvation in dire times actually can push some people to religion.

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But there isn’t.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


The video was shot in the early hours of Oct. 8 by a woman searching for a missing friend at the site of the rave in southern Israel where, the day before, Hamas terrorists massacred hundreds of young Israelis.

Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated.

And The Times interviewed several soldiers and volunteer medics who together described finding more than 30 bodies of women and girls in and around the rave site and in two kibbutzim in a similar state as Ms. Abdush’s — legs spread, clothes torn off, signs of abuse in their genital areas.

That same morning, along Route 232 but in a different location about a mile southwest of the party area, Raz Cohen — a young Israeli who had also attended the rave and had worked recently in the Democratic Republic of Congo training Congolese soldiers — said that he was hiding in a dried-up streambed.

Jamal Waraki, a volunteer medic with the nonprofit ZAKA emergency response team, said he could not get out of his head a young woman in a rawhide vest found between the main stage and the bar.

Yinon Rivlin, a member of the rave’s production team who lost two brothers in the attacks, said that after hiding from the killers, he emerged from a ditch and made his way to the parking area, east of the party, along Route 232, looking for survivors.


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I’m sorry, is this supposed to make us OK with Israel bombing hospitals because a rapist might be hiding there?

Israel has been doing this shit for decades, and while this story is still horrific, it’s clearly designed for the reader to justify the violence against Hamas.

Neither side is without blood on their hands, but the scope is drastically different.

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I don’t understand why folks think that posting articles that document one side’s atrocities is implicitly advocating for or justifying the other side. That is just the scope of the article and we need accuracy to make sense of all the shit going on.

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I’m sorry, is this supposed to make us OK with Israel bombing hospitals because a rapist might be hiding there?

No. Please master basic literacy. Learning about evil things Hamas has done has no relation to trying to justify things Israel has done.

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