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Here’s how I interpret their reactions:

Conservatives tend to have much larger amygdalas, which makes sense, as their worldview is based around fear. The brain/ amygdala treats threats to personal identity with the same fear response as physical threats.

A 15-minute city means you don’t need a car, and it’s far less convenient to have one. But for a lot of people, especially the conservative folks, their car (or bro-dozer) is their identity, or at least a huge part of it. Their identity is fragile enough already, it can’t withstand removing a big chunk of it. (How would a man know he’s a man without a truck to perform masculinity in?)

Therefore, a walkable city is s threat to their vehicle, which is a threat to their identity, which is just as frightening as a physical threat, like being hunted for sport.

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The brain/ amygdala treats threats to personal identity with the same fear response as physical threats.

Yeah this is the statement of a person who’s not been in physical danger before. The response to physical threat is so fucking far beyond that of a threat to personal identity.

I’m a conservative specifically because I know there is a whole different level of fear beyond social fear and the fear of work or boredom or identity confusion. I became a conservative the moment I encountered malicious violence for the first time, the first and only time I ever experienced mortal terror.

Realizing that there was an emotion I had never felt before, but that had been in reserve, ready to go when I got that close to being killed, that changed my worldview.

You know what kind of life experience makes a person’s amygdala bigger? Trauma. Having been through shit is what makes a person’s amygdala bigger.

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That’s odd, I have experienced mortal terror a few times, and it somehow didn’t magically turn me into a conservative. Anyway, I’ll note that my comment contained no physical threats, yet still seems to have triggered a fight-or-flight response.

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1 point

Whoosh. Stick to that straw man.

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4 points

In the sense of all politics is sexual pathology I’d argue these people would to just like to fuck their car. It’s an object kink or however that’s called. I ain’t shaming anybody over it, it’s not like the car is going to care, but it makes for terrible transportation planning

You ever see how much car-people describe cars as sexy or go like weirdly overboard with the curves? It’s because they all want to fuck cars. We should just allow that, hell, build infrastructure for it.

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2 points

In the sense of all politics is sexual pathology

I’m sorry, what? Is this something they taught you an argument for or just a loudly declared edgelord thing some academic declared in some manifesto?

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32 points

You’re fun. I like your brains.🤙🏼

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10 points

- Dr. Hannibal Lecter

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13 points

I only have one issue with these types of cities.

I don’t want to be that close to other people.

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I feel the same way, I don’t mind people but in small, small, smaaaaaall doses. But cities like that are great for others, I don’t have to live there.

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14 points

Y’all might be imagining NYC levels of density and, while that’s important, is definitely several steps further than what’s needed to make America not terrible. Something like rowhouses or even 4-plexes would be an improvement, and that would, at max, only add 50-100 more people to the average city block.

If you already live in a neighborhood, you would really only be interacting with your neighbors as you do now. It’s not as if your entire city is going to be in the same 15 minute stretch.

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I’d like that for other people! I don’t think it’s bad if some land is less dense though? I can’t stand living in anything that has connecting walls with another house. People are loud, they don’t respect each others spaces or things, and they get super entitled to using common spaces and not sharing with others. People with children are especially bad at all this. But eh, maybe my experience has just been bad.

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Plus you can still just put headphones in and quickly dash home to lock yourself away just like now. And I’m sure you’ll still be able to get people to deliver things to you even if those people are on foot or bike.

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2 points

Dutch cities are way quieter and more peaceful than American cities. This is because cars are loud.

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36 points

Many Americans are already dealing with the downsides of urban density but without the benefits of a walkable city.

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14 points

In Houston, during the 60s, you could drive out into the wilderness once you passed 610.

But with urban sprawl all the way out to Conroe, Katy, and Rosenberg, what used to be a 15 minute drive has turned into hours in the car to escape the edge of the city.

Every new subdivision pushed the rural neighborhoods farther and farther away.

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In a weird way the higher density is actually liberating because it gives you cover for just ignoring everyone. It’s a cognitive trick which takes a bit of practice, but eventually there is a strange solace in urban life.

I lived in suburbs and a small town for about half my life and those places get smaller the longer you are there. You run into someone you know whenever you go out, and people are always waving or saying hi because they think that’s just being friendly. In the city nobody is going to say hi or wave at 3000 people per day. And nobody get labeled rude or antisocial for it.

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17 points

I think of it like getting better public transport. Even if you don’t use it, other people will and that will give you more space

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15 points

Remember that old saying “every accusation from a Conservative is a confession”?

Well, the next time you see someone respond to densification or 15 minute cities on this level, it’s because they were already thinking of ways to exterminate folks on the left.

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Yeah next time you’re (a) actually conversing with a conservative and (b) they respond to your mentioning city density benefits by claiming you plan to kill them, you are green light to go on that conclusion

Give it a break man, fuck. This is memes.

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I recently moved to an apartment with decent walkability to basic neccesties and I feel far more free than a car has ever made me feel.

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1 point

“Be a hitter, baby.”

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