A 14-year-old boy has been arrested after allegedly killing his parents and severely injuring his 11-year-old sister at their home in a rural community in Fresno County, California, on Wednesday, authorities say.

The suspect, who is not being identified because of his age, originally called the sheriff’s office after the double slaying and told them someone had broken into their house in Miramonte, attacked his family, and fled in a truck, Fresno County Sheriff John Zanoni said during a news conference Friday.

Detectives later noticed inconsistencies in the boy’s story, according to Zanoni.

“Evidence ultimately showed that he had fabricated the story of a break in and was responsible for using multiple weapons to attack his mom, his dad and his sister,” Zanoni said.

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Obviously we should ban all weapons because of this outlier case

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If you view each case separately they are all outliers.

If you look at the US vs nearly any other developed country you’ll see trends in gun crimes and how would you explain those?

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Gun nut’s gonna gun nut, logic need not apply

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I prefer to give these newish accounts that throw a hand grenade into the comment sections a chance to explain their position and clarify their comments.

Most never do.

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But… MUH FREEDUMS 😢

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We should and its not an outlier case.

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You can’t say ban ALL weapons. It’s not even specified what weapons were used. Could have been any household items. The focus should be on mental health. The kid obviously had problems and no one to help him.

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I hope these outliers affect you at some point.

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Yeah, we should. But let’s compromise and put safeguards in place instead. Like background checks, registration to monitor over eager purchasers, and generally restrict the ability of someone to take the life of a other.

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In Canada we have gone to extreme lengths on gun control, specific to handguns. You can take a restricted firearms course, allowing you to own handguns, and other restricted arms.

The rules go something like this. If you own a handgun, the government can come and check on you at almost any time. You must keep it locked in a safe. You must keep ammunition in a separate room. If you plan to take the handgun to the range, or anywhere outside of your home, you have to contact the government for approval and establish a timeline.

I may not be 100% accurate on those laws but that is the gist of it. The idea is to cut down on firearm related crimes.

Now answer me this. How is that cutting down on crime at all, other than punishing lawful gun owners. How many people that caused death or injury with a handgun, took a PAL course to legally buy it? My gut says little to none. Those who commit the crimes buy handguns illegally.

It may be a sort of bias, but fuck me have there been way more shootings in my locale lately. Drug and gang related but still.

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Those handgun permits aren’t just a matter of applying and taking a course and then you can have a handgun. As I understand it, they grant them to specific professions, like law enforcement and trapping.

Which means people aren’t able to legally carry pistols around, which means it’s risky to do so, which means that not many do so without a specific intent, which means there’s less random gun crime because someone happened to have a hidden gun in the heat of a moment where they were briefly pissed off.

And those random inspections and storage rules aren’t meant to prevent legal owners from doing any violence. If one decides to do so, there’s not much those rules will do to stop them. But they will make it less likely that some other random person who hasn’t been vetted can get ahold of that gun. Usually there’s some kind of violent intent or intent to service a violent intent when guns are stolen, so making it painful to leave your guns in a position to be easily stolen can make a real difference.

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Yeah, I’m sure it does nothing.

Not related, but how many school shootings did you guys have up there in 2023? Is firearms the number 1 cause of death for Canadian children? Because it is in the US.

Who needs actual statistics when you have anecdotal experience, right? Just trust your gut.

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Good job on sharing a contrasting view to the top comment. Not saying you’re wrong - I don’t know. But I share the aforementioned comment - appreciate this as a tragedy first and possibly wait for clearer details before injecting politics into it.

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It’d be far more helpful to ban the type of ignorance that people like you possess.

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You’re right, we should do literally nothing…

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Nah. No one has ever said that. They have, however, suggested regulating certain weapons that have been involved in many of the 559 (as of nov 30) mass shootings in the US in 2023, and requiring extended background checks and waiting periods.

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Apologies. I confused it with a very similar story. Tragic that isn’t the only example of this.

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I confused two similar stories. Sorry, unintentionally.

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