They work better in Linux than Windows, not to mention backwards compatibility.

EDIT: I may be wrong about newest printer models, 2020 and above.

EDIT2: Hardware problems are an entirely different issue.

143 points

I swear my 3d printer is more reliable than my paper printer.

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At least if my 3d printer breaks I can fix it.

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I am wondering why there is no open framework for laser printing.

There are a few parts that would have to be made out of sheet metal. The sides could be stamped for the same pattern. You then need a back and a cross section. One could theoretically make them from ABS, but ABS gets brittle with heat and the sides will shatter.

One side of the printer is dedicated to running an ARM SOC. I’m not sure if the Arduino is up to the task, but it will need to control 3 motors, initiate a heating sequence, start a rasterizing laser, interpret a print job, communicate over network and USB, and monitor a bunch of sensors.

The hardest parts will be obtaining print cartridges, rollers, and fusers. Designing a standard to run off a certain vendor’s hardware will be a pile of issues, and nobody will just start manufacturing hardware for a handful of hobbyist printers.

Everything else is 3d printing, springs, and screws.

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Well, cartridges, rollers, and fusers are the important bits that can’t easily be manufactured by hand. And that’s a big part of the price of the printer.

You can’t really make them cheaper than mass-manufacture, and laser printers are already almost bulletproof from my experience.

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I am wondering why there is no open framework for laser printing.

Besides the reasons already mentioned most people who would be interested in bleeding edge tinkering probably have moved on from paper at this point.

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2d printers need to be a lot more precise. 300dpi means each dot is placed with less than a tenth of a mm, and that’s not even particularly impressive for a 2d printer. 3d printers get away with a lot more slop than that.

That’s only talking about greyscale. Color requires precise alignment of the cartridges for at least 4 base colors (higher end photo printers have even more) , and the mix of those colors must be carefully controlled to get accurate output.

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24 points

I too own an HP

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Let’s go back to stone tablets. Only instead of stone, it’s plastic and resin.

“Here’s my report.” Slaps what appears to be 100 fast food trays down on the desk

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My cheap old 3D printer requires constant fiddling before and after every print, yet still fails probably half the time. I avoid printing things sometimes just because I don’t want to deal with it.

I would still agree with you 100%. I hate my HP printer so much.

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Huh? Linux and printers are the best

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My hp printer has worked perfectly and reliably with CUPS for years now. Just turn it on and print, works every time.
Open source print drivers, baby! I still hate CUPS though.

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Why the CUPS hate?

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This wasn’t true *not so long ago.

*Depends on your definition of long 🤷.

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Seriously, one of the best ways to fix printer issues with windows. Is to buy a cheap raspberry pi zero or similar. And stick it in between as a print server. It solves so many random issues for both bad printer, firmwears and fucky windows behaviors

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CUPS is absolutely amazing compared to windows printer drivers which had whole ass critical CVEs several times already.

Even Apple uses CUPS

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CUPS is horrible, and also had its share of critical vulnerabilities. It is just better than the LPD mess we had before.

It is not a Linux specific thing - it was developed when there still were a lot of UNIX variants around. Apple was a very early contributor, and had quite a bit of influence in making it successful.

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It’s no surprise Apple uses CUPS. They wrote it, after all.

Edit: TIL Apple didn’t write CUPS themselves but they bought the company that did it pretty early in the game. Here’s a LWN article from the time, exposing some of the worries that came with the news of the acquisition: https://lwn.net/Articles/242020/

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With cups it’s pretty much painless on linux form me, though some distros have a very restrictive firewall configuration out of the box, so you have to whitelist it before using. Not too complicated, but can be very frustrating for new users who never touched a firewall before.

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ufw ring a bell 😒… yeah, being uncomplicated doesn’t mean it’s not working.

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Printers fucking suck.

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Back in the day you’d just cat file.txt > /dev/lp0 and it would work. Mostly.

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