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No if I have to keep fixing it , it is not worth my time.

I installed owncloud years ago and came to the same conclusion and just got rid of it. I use syncthing nowadays though its not the same thing.

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Yep, I’ve adapted all of my setup to syncthing, and never looked back.

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Any guidance on this? I looked into Synthing at one time to backup Android phones and got overwhelmed very quickly. I’d love to use it in a similar fashion to NextCloud for syncing between various computers too.

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Well, it works in a different way than NextCloud. You don’t have a server, instead you just make a share between your computers and they are all peers.

It takes some getting used to the idea, but it’s actually much simpler than NextCloud.

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It really wasn’t all that complicated for me. Install the client on two devices set a share up on one device go to the other device Hit add device put the share ID in. Go back to the first devices admin and say allow the share

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I was very intimidated as well, I’ll try to simplify it, but as always check the documentation ;)

This is the process I used to sync between my Windows PC and Android phone to sync retroarch saves (works well, would recommend, Pokemon is awesome) I’ve never done it on a Linux, though i assume it’s not too different

https://docs.syncthing.net/intro/getting-started.html

I downloaded the Synctrazor program so that it would run in the tray, again I’m not sure what the equivalent/if this would be necessary on Linux.

No shade to the writers, but the documentation isn’t super noob friendly, as I figured out. I’d recommend trying to cut out all the fluff, and boil it down to bare essentials. Download the program (whichever one seems right for your device, there’s an app for Android) and follow the process for syncing stuff (I believe I used a video guide, but it’s not actually as complicated as it seems)

If you need specific help I’d be happy to answer questions, though I only understand a certain amount myself XD

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I’m absolutely at that point with Nextcloud. I kind of didn’t want to go the syncthing route, but I’ll probably give it a shot anyway since none of the NC alternatives seem any better.

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I tried nc it for a while I would have taken me till the end of days to import all of my files.

I suspect I could keep it running by doing lockstep backups and updates. But it was just so incredibly slow.

I just want something that would give me remote access to my files with meta information about my files and a good search index.

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Pydio Cells/Seafile?

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Came to same conclusion too

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i have been running the new owncloud (ocis) and, with some quirks and very basic functionality, it’s been running for 2+ years and survived multiple updates without major complications

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I dunno what you guys are doing that makes your nextcloud die without touching it. Mine runs happily until I decide to update it, and that usually goes fine, too. I don’t use docker for it, tho.

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I dunno what you guys are doing that makes your nextcloud die without touching it

Mine runs happily until I decide to update it

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I swear every update ends up breaking it and putting it into maintenance mode for me. This would then lead to 1-2 hours of going through previously visited links to try and figure out what fixed it previously. For me personally, it seems like it’s usually mariadb requiring a manual update that fixes it but it’s always a little scary.

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I always run occ upgrade and occ db:add-missing-indices after a package upgrade, just to be sure that I do not miss any database migrations. Using Archlinux I wrote a pacman hook so that it happens automatically.

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Just dont update it then

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It’s the containerization causing this imo. I also host nextcloud on bare metal and it’s quite stable

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I’ve been reading nextcloud forums/reddit/lemmy/etc. for years now, and i feel like 90% of the problems are from people using docker or whatever easy one-click solution is out there

I’ve been running NC the old fashioned way for years now and i’ve never had problems of NC dying for no reason.

Have i had issues? Of course… Not not like the ones people keep coming here and shitting on NC

The only times i’ve had major issues and it was actually a problem with nextcloud, is buggy major version releases… So i never install a new major release until X.0.1 these days. Havent really had problems since

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In my own personal experience, Nextcloud;

  • Needs constant attention to prevent falling over
  • Administration is a mess
  • Takes far too long to get used to its ‘little ways’
  • Basics like E2EE don’t work
  • Sync works when it feels like it
  • Updating feels like russian roulette
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Updating from my experience is not Russian roulette. It always requires manual intervention and drives me mad. Half the time I just wget the new zip and copy my config file and restart nginx lol.

Camera upload has been fantastic for Android, but once in a while it shits its brains out thinking there are conflicts when there are none and I have to tell it to keep local AND keep server side to make them go away.

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The update without fail tells me it doesn’t work due to non-standard folders being present. So, I delete ‘temp’. After the upgrade is done, it tells me that ‘temp’ is missing and required.

Other than that it’s quite stable though… Unless you dare to have long file names or folder depths.

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This could be it, but I also remember reading once it might be something to do with php.ini timeout settings too

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It’s like…having a toddler LMAO my little digital toddler lololol

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23 points

Am i the only one left who doesn’t want a snap docker Kubernetes container and just installs nextcloud in a normal way and never had any problems?

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Same here. I’m just installing it normally, and my nextcloud instance is just chugging along.

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For me it’s the opposite. I tried to use nextcloud for years, installing the normal way, and it always broke for no reason. I just started using it on docker and it has been perfect, fingers crossed.

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Interesting, when I used docker on a proxmox build, it would give me trouble. Once I installed it the normal way on an Ubuntu build, it was good to go.

I wonder why that is?

Fingers crossed that it continues to work for you in the current configuration!

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Same here, but after v25(?) it won’t update on my RPi 4 any longer, think they went 64 bit only?

Other than that no issues

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This has been a serious concern of mine. In the event that I prematurely die I have everything set up with automatic updates, so that hopefully my family can continue to use the self-hosted services without me.

Nextcloud will not stop shitting the bed. I’d give it a few months at most if I died, at which point my family would likely turn back to Google Drive.

I’m looking for a more reliable alternative, even if it’s not as feature-rich.

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I’ve told my wife and family that if something happens to me, they need to start migrating all their stuff off my self-hosted services to cloud services because its a matter of time before something fails and nobody’s around who knows or cares to fix it.

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You don’t want your kids using a rope, so keep them away from linux.

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My oldest kid is a senior in highschool and is starting to show some interest in Linux and this kind of stuff. I’m hopeful that I can change my tune soon and maybe have one of the kids to share a hobby with!

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If you’re ok with just file storage sftpgo has been solid for me for years now. Does sftp ftp and WebDAV (like nextcloud). Webui isn’t as pretty but it’s fast. Mobile apps will be various sync apps with sftp or WebDAV support. On Android folder sync pro is pretty good for keeping documents and pictures backed up

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The way that they do updates doesn’t make automated updates very easy. There are usually a few little nagging things that have to be done or changed and they don’t always seem to be the same. I just update manually and make sure I’ve got a good backup of all my family’s files.

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