I am currently an IOS user, however, as the title suggests, I wish to switch to android. This is because I would prefer to use free software and not be locked into the apple ecosystem. That being said I am already locked into apple and would like to know how anyone else here has managed the switch.

I for one know I will face problems regarding group chats with friends and family on IOS, I will lose out on iCloud+ features, I will have to buy a replacement for my HomePod, I will need to replace apple home, etc.

How did anyone else here who has made such a switch replace or solve these issues?

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I haven’t made the switch because I’ve never used iOS but if you have a Mac I remember there used to be a way to get iMessage working, maybe look into that.

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Yes, iMessage works seamlessly on Mac, even with me never having had an iPhone.

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I did this years ago and getting sms disentangled from imessage was a fucking nightmare. I don’t even remember how I finally managed it. Idk if it’s gotten any better, but don’t be surprised if there’s a headache. Good luck!

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I’ve had this issue in the past. I had to spend hours on the phone with apple support to get them to manually remove my number from the iMessage database of known numbers. Then you also have to wait for that to sync back to everyone’s devices who has you as a contact. It was awful and still didn’t fix it 100%

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Well, first I would like to adress the elephant in the room. Samsung/Google Pixel is not in it’s entirety Android. There are lots of other brands out there, each and every one of them offers different things to different people who ask for different features.

About what you’re asking for, can’t actually help with group chats (the US has a culturally attachment to iMessage, which is locked down to iOS), but for iCloud well, you can have your stuff in google drive, or on a offline drive (most of modern android have otg capabilities), or even selfhosted if that’s your kind of thing.

Seriously, give it a try and see for yourself how mature now is the OS and ofc see if you’re staying ;)

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The cultural attachment you speak of is what concerns me the most. I as a person am lucky enough to have a strong enough presence that I could get away with going against the flow, but it would significantly hurt my ability to socially network.

On the note of iCloud, I’m considering buying a Mac mini and putting asahi on it (not because apple because it’s got that sweet M2) and running a nextcloud server.

I’m quite excited to give it a go, might even try some things like lineageOS or /e/os out!

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iMessage is the biggest hurdle. I recommend that you ask your friends and family to switch to another messaging app to talk to you to avoid the green bubble frustration. (begrudgingly recommend Signal, though Sup. by the guy who made PixelFed looks interesting and can help grow the Fediverse)

It’s not going to be easy though.

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What’s wrong with a green bubble? Just curious.

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IPhone users have a good reason to not like green bubbles in their group chats, because then their group chat loses functionalities like emojis and the ability to send large images. Or so I’ve heard.

Apple is obviously unwilling to solve that because the lock-in benefits them.

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That’s not all, as I currently use an iPhone I can tell you firsthand those are the least of your issues. When in a group chat with android users IOS users can’t add or remove people to or from the chat, iOS users don’t get any of the apple specific features like unsending, thread reply’s, reactions, even embedding things like links doesn’t work. The adding/removing people is the biggest issue however.

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I have no experience with this myself, but I heard somewhere that apples protocol for handling messages do not conform to standards and deliberately mishandles media in messages, making images etc lower resolution. I might be wrong though.

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Sorta. It’s not that they don’t conform to standards.

It’s that they don’t adopt new standards.

The newest iPhone still handles SMS and MMS the same way the iPhone 3G did back in 2008.

It’s like if Ford refused to add CD players to their cars and insisted you use their proprietary “Ford Media Disk”

And if you don’t like that, fine! It still has a tape player!

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Most of my friends & family use telegram. I’ve always liked it.

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Telegram is entirely unencrypted by default, so you shouldn’t use it for anything you wouldn’t say out in public.

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iMessage is absolutely an issue, and I don’t think I will overcome it if I make the switch because of how integral it is to my family. I’ve heard of software I can run on a Mac that forwards to my phone. I have an old Mac so does such software still exist and work?

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Sounds like their tricks work.

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