So. I just bought a new telly and to my surprise, not, the OS is rather bad and has very limited amount of apps. Therefore I’ll invest further in either Apple TV or the Firestick. Anyone got any recommendations, tips or hot takes on this? Which has more adds, and can it be blocked via DNS? Further read that Firestick could be jailbreaked, that has my interest 🦊

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Apple TV doesn’t have ads at all. If that’s all you care about, I would say go for that.

The Firestick isn’t really jailbreakable per se, but it doesn’t really need to be. You can sideload things with extreme ease. There’s a pretty decent app that allows you to watch YouTube with no ads or sponsored content shown. That alone is worth the cost of a Firestick for me. It does have some ads in the menu, but they’re not super obtrusive and never bothered me much. Plus the cost is much lower. You used to be able to put a different launcher on the Firestick and never see any Amazon content at all (ads) but they fixed that a while back and I haven’t bothered to see if that works again, but for all I know it might.

Edit: it does.

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Thanks for the insight, I’m actually able to get the Apple TV for the same price as the Firestick where I live. Second hand that is.

Edit: No I cannot - i totally misunderstood the generations of Apple TV… 😅

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I have both and only use the firestick to watch YouTube because I side loaded a YouTube client that blocks ads

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I have an older Apple TV (I think I bought it in 2017-2018), and the only thing it’s missing is 4K support. It’s not slow at all and it gets updates just fine. Only real “bad” thing is that the controller is the older model which is a bit clunky to use but you can get a new one separately if you want.

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Personally, I just like to AirPlay YouTube videos from Safari with an ad blocker to my TV whenever I want YouTube on it. So that’s one work around if you ever need it

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I just like everything to work with the remote. Plus I don’t like the idea of having to pull out and tie up my phone while I’m watching YouTube on the tv.

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Reasonable enough

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AppleTV UI is smooth, and it builds a “master queue” of programs you are watching or want to watch across services (similar to Plex). The exception to this is Netflix — they refuse to “opt in” to this service for some reason.

It also doubles as a Homekit hub if you need something like that.

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My hot take is the AppleTV will last you years where the fire stick will probably get frustrating after a while.

By that I mean the AppleTV is fast. Of the other streaming devices I’ve used (newer chromecast, Rokus), my first gen AppleTV 4K still is snappy and feels better. I think I got this thing in 2018.

That may not be the end all for you, but when you compare a lot of these devices back to back, the AppleTV just feels better to use.

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I am not a fan of Apple but I completely agree. I was a home automation programmer for years and that included AV.

Personally I use a Roku I got for free but AppleTV has unmatched quality and experience for a standalone streaming box.

The only downside is that IP control requires you to set it up as part of your apple home. If you don’t want to do that, you’ll have to use IR and IR control sucks.

I also much prefer the old remote design (without Siri) but that’s just an opinion.

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My brother is a home theater project manager, and he generally likes Roku the best since they can integrate it easier (or something). But they just feel cheaper to me overall. And I have a pretty standard 5.1 setup (hopefully adding Atmos soon), so the AppleTV works great in my setup.

I really like the original 4K remote. It lets you zoom around the interface so fast.

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He’s right! Roku is soooo easy to integrate…you just plop in the IP and give it permission and you’re good to go. They have GREAT drivers for every system I have experience with.

The biggest downside of Roku is the gigantic ads on the home screen. To get rid of those you need to do some router config which can be annoying (or impossible in some situations) but when I use it I don’t spend much time outside of apps

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Also agree with Apple vs Firestick. The Firestick felt extremely sluggish. I personally just use my Xbox, so if you already have one that it’s a great option. I just bought a Logitech external remote since I don’t like to use the controller all the time.

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I hate everything about the firestick. The only two streaming boxes worth using are AppleTV and Roku imo

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The old remote as in the one that’s probably around 7 years old? There are two Siri Remotes. A glass one with just a track pad and some buttons and an aluminium one with a circular trackpad that also has physical navigation buttons and the rest of the buttons. Both have Siri

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Good call, I forgot gen2 existed.

Yes I meant the original AppleTV remote with the rectangle trackpad. I unironically think it’s the best mini remote ever made lol

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For what it’s worth, I have an Apple TV, I love it. Really smooth, fast interface. Works really well. Voice search isn’t even terrible! For an Apple product. It really improves the TV experience. My only frustration is mixed app support, e.g. Netflix has an app that works fine but it doesn’t integrate into the rest of Apple TV which sucks. Also… apples walled garden can be annoying at times, so I also have a chromecast for the rare case I need to go around one of apples arbitrary restrictions.

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Netflix refuses to integrate with any other companies product FWIW, webos, tvOS, android, etc.

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Honestly, it’s so annoying. Netflix has started getting really bad and not just because of their refusal to integrate into the TV app

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If you are going to pay for a lot of subscriptions, Apple TV is probably better.

If you want to use your own media from nas, stream torrents, ad free YouTube Vanced, use iptv subscription then Apple TV is not for you.

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