Seriously. I don’t want to install something on my phone when the dev is just using a WebView, if that’s what it’s called. When the app is basically just a website with the browser hidden.

What’s the reason for that? To attach the customer? To sell the app for money? Is there more ad revenue that way? Do you reach more people?

(Are there any good reasons for it, too? Security, maybe?)

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If they have an app they can gather far more personal data from you (and your device) that they can then turn around and sell

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This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.

Most users don’t mind giving an app a large amount of access and in doing so, a lot of personal information gets exposed.

If you have a choice, use a website.

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Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions

For example the accelerometer can be used without permissions

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Not on GrapheneOS :)

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Also it adds a link to their website right on your phone.

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It also has all the UI/UX stuff preloaded making everything feel snappier.

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making everything feel snappier.

We use very different apps that could easily be websites.

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And far fewer people have adblockers that block ads in apps.

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Another reason is that they can more easily send push messages to the user.

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So they can make your phone go bingedybeep and show you more adverts, while slurping up any data the browser doesn’t usually let them access.

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This, and also so they can avoid your plugins that kill browser tracking for ads and shit.

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And you know the rest of the reasons when at the first start your minesweeper app needs to have access to your photos, location, camera and microphone.

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Ad revenue. It is harder to block ads on mobile than it is on desktop.

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Especially in an app rather than a mobile browser.

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Heck all the features of YouTube premium? Are available for free in firefox

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plus all that sweet user and device tracking data.

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Yeah this too. Ads and telemetry. Those make money.

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More like gathering user data they can sell

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most apps are just websites wrapped inside a container and made an app.

Why?

Because they dont want you to use the actual website.

why?

Cause your browser gives you a LOT of protection against invasive data mining/profiling/tracking/etc.(Not saying its perfect, We all know about fingerprinting and HTML5 canvas tracking and what have you…but its a LOT better than the information that apps can steal)

Data mining/profiling/tracking/etc that these companies want to do to you, because you are a product to them, not a customer.

And how do they do that with an app?

Permissions.

Ever wonder why your pizza ordering app has to have access to your contacts, data storage, camera, microphone, etc etc etc? Its not because its needed for you to order pizzas. Hell, you can do that on a website with no permissions, so why is it needed for an app on your phone?

So they can steal/mine your data for profiling/tracking/marketing/being sold to others/etc.

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Some people are missing the forest for the trees here

Having a businesses app on your phone is better regular advertising than anything they could ever pay for.

They just want an excuse to make you look at their logo and think about their business as regularly as possible

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This is true

people tend to develop liking or disliking for things merely because they are familiar with them

and it’s amazing that basic psychological principles have been decoupled from mainstream awareness of marketing tactics (obviously intentionally).

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This is not a problem with the olauncher

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Thanks I’m trying that

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Lemmy has a real problem with this. It’s like all of the angry people from Reddit came here and now we just have an angry circlejerk about anything the crowd doesn’t like.

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Username checks out

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