44 points

I hope this is his swan song. Patrick Stewart is amazing, and I love Captain Picard, but he’s not Harrison Ford. The franchise will be fine without him. We don’t need to play out Too Short a Season in real life

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40 points

Three seasons of PIC were already a mistake. The only good thing coming from it is the possibility of a Riker cooking/baking show (which I would totally watch).

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26 points

In rewatching the original series and TNG thereafter, the consistent factor, regardless of the early special effects, was the scripts. The dialogue was always great. In ST: Picard, the dialogue is trash.

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16 points

Everything about ST Picard is trash. Dialogue, script, Character behavior, 50 years of fransche history ignored, it was all written and executed by people who don’t like star Trek, cast excluded though I just don’t understand why any of the vast was on board with this turd. We’re they so desperate for money?

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14 points

The sitcom The Rikers as pitched by Sirtis and Frakes would have been better that the three seasons of Picard, frankly.

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10 points

2 seasons were a mistake and by far the worst trek seasons from any show, the third season while being massive fan service was just what I seemingly wanted as I loved every second and was a great ending to the TNG crew

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6 points

I just watch the third season and pretend all of the random references to the early seasons happened in a more logical way.

I knew somebody who was running a “what could have been” Star Trek TTRPG campaign based around episodes of Voyager that could have been executed better, I think I would love to run a campaign that had plot elements from Picard’s first two seasons as a personal headcanon.

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5 points

I think the difference between Stewart and Ford is that Stewart seems more to be doing it because he enjoys this character. Ford seems to be doing it in spite of his feelings.

As long as Stewart is still having fun, I’m happy with him continuing as long as he wants.

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1 point

@Infynis Swan Song? So it will be a Musical Film?
Sorry, could not resist

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1 point

@Star Trek Um, maybe a SNW movie where Picard meets Pike?

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23 points

No. Please, no.

The Picard show was already dreadfully bad and has effectively destroyed TNG and Q for me, please let the dead body rest on piece, no more.

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9 points

Did you watch Season 3 of Picard?

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15 points

It’s dreadful. Just gathering up the old cast for nostalgia sake. Quite an anticlimactic resolution to the enemy fight too.

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7 points

That’s fair. I enjoyed it, but I can see why you wouldn’t. Hopefully we can agree at least 3 was better than 1 & 2.

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4 points

Season 3 worked because of the ensemble cast, though. The first two where it was “Picard and Friends” felt weird, and not like what anyone really wanted, and if this is another “Just Picard” thing it’s likely to end up the same.

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2 points

I agree. Picard Season 3 felt like it should have been the final TNG movie, but I’m actually glad it was episodic since it gave better pacing for gathering the cast together.

It was a lot of fam service, but in a good way imo

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4 points

Oh man, I’d repressed the memory that Q was in s2 of Picard! I kind of liked the first season but the follow-ups were nostalgia dumpster fires. Literally what Sir PatStew said he didn’t want to make going into the show.

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21 points

I prefer to think that Picard is just still stuck in the Nexus and everything that has happened to him since has been a result of magic Nexus fever dreams.

Movie Picard and PIC Picard acted nothing like TNG Picard to the point where they were seemingly completely different people. Movie Picard wanted to make the Borg pay for what they did and literally beat in dead Borg with his fists and snapped the Borg queen’s spine in two with his bare hands while TNG Picard knew things weren’t that cut and dry and even had an opportunity to potentially genocide the works of them and didn’t because ethics and shit. Movie Picard would have drove Hugh up to their doorstep infected with the fractal virus the first chance he had.

PIC Picard… is literally an android I guess? But still old? They kind of ignored that later. So, literally he isn’t the same Picard as TNG Picard.

The Nexus is my head canon.

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I… Don’t hate this. He meets Kirk too, which could be captain wish fulfillment. After his nephew is killed in such a stupid way he just exits reality and never returns.

First Contact, like you said, is revenge on the Borg and saving Earth.

Insurrection is then him inventing the perfect woman to save and finding the fountain of youth.

Nemesis he fights an evil, young version of himself, which has gotta be worth a few years of therapy.

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10 points

Did not expect that.

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6 points

I thought we had seen it all.

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7 points

“Yes, and she’s scrabbling around to get them back on again, but even before she can get her knickers on, I’ve seen everything. Yeah. I’ve seen it all.”

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3 points

But I’ve seen everything anyway. And I get on my bike and I ride off. On the grass.

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10 points

Picard was already bordering on elder abuse.

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I think it might be self-inflicted. Patrick Stewart is big enough that he can make it so with regard to the scripts. He’s the one that insisted there be a dune buggy chase scene in Nemesis, for example. And he’s pushed for more action and romance in the movies. I suspect that this is another case of a good actor or writer who works best when tempered by outside control.

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I don’t know that insistence is the right way to phrase it. Sir Patrick and Brent Spiner are good friends, IIRC Nemesis was written by Spiner’s old flatmate and best friend. As such the wants of the actors started creeping into the scripts, not out of insistence per se, but perhaps more out a natural affect of a close working relationship. Sometimes a healthy distance is most important between a writer’s room, and the cast.

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