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People in Victoria want to ban everything. We also want to ban ebikes, off leash dogs, smoking, single use items, leaf blowers, sheltering in parks, outdoor fires, and all poor people. I see a headline like this every week here it feels like

Also bunch of body shaming cunts in here, stay classy lemmy

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Get some better examples if you want sympathy.

Off leash dogs are dumb, smoking is dumb and kills people, single use items are a huge waste of resources and source of pollution, leaf blowers are loud as fuck pollute like mad and generally pointless, and for a province that spends the majority of its time on fire outdoor fires tend to be a bad idea.

Fuck trucks

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Not looking for sympathy just saying that people who live here will never stop complaining

A lot of people don’t need truck but how in the world is a full ban going to work when majority of contractors use light duty trucks lol. Have you ever been to Victoria? There are so many contractors and so many pickup trucks

Increase the price of trucks maybe? Contractors will just push the cost down to customers and housing will be even more expensive then

And what about the people who live north island and drive their truck into Victoria for groceries/hospital/whatever? Fuck em?

The issue is actually that public transit sucks and there are plainly too many vehicles on the road, not specifically trucks are the problem ha. The people complaining in this article are people who never leave Victoria, I know the type very well

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I think most reasonable people don’t actually think there needs to be a full ban on these trucks. I do think that most people would agree that there needs to be some restriction/enforcement on where they can park. The picture at the top of the article is a good example, they don’t fit in lots of the angle parking spots right downtown. There are small car spots, there are micro car/motorcycle spots, maybe we need standard sized car spots. Big trucks can park in lots where they do fit or on the edge of downtown (I do that in my normal sized car if I can anyways because who wants to pay for parking?). As for your second to last point, no one’s going to drive 3+ hours from the north Island to Victoria to get groceries especially not in these trucks for $150+ of gas. No one would even drive from Saanich to get groceries in Victoria.

I do agree about the transit though, it’s insane that travelling from Nanaimo to Victoria takes an entire day by public transport and anything north of that is simply impossible.

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Your view of all these problems is too myopic and binary to ever come to a reasonable conclusion on any of these topics.

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I used to be a contractor as an av installer here in Australia Very few people here in Australia with large trucks need them, and those that do are the people who are useless onsite, especially because they’re too large to park in busy areas, and they cost a lot to run (so you know the person doesn’t do much and gets paid a lot). They’re totally inefficient with productivity.

In fact, you’ll never see couriers use them either because they don’t do anything well (even for cable deliveries).

Here in Australia, there is talk about introducing a new license for them, and it’s well deserved. The kind of people attracted to emotional support vehicles don’t put in effort at all into parking, and they should require extra training and more restrictions . They boast about towing capacity too, so they should be required to train for those capacities

Also, those kind of cars don’t handle driving well either honestly lol, because they’re so heavy. They have more clearance, that’s it. I don’t live there, but I seriously doubt your roads are so bad you need a 4wd and high clearance to get around. Here in Australia, such cars are always perfectly clean and definitely aren’t needed 99% of the time. In fact, the only people whining about roads here in Australia tend to be people justifying their large car, or people with impractical sports cars, and I’m willing to bet it’s an exaggeration there too

There are contractors that should have one, but they’re extremely limited. Either get something for transporting people, or cargo

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These trucks are no longer than a 1978 Cadillac, wtf designed these parking spaces?

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Thanks Sagifurious, this person knows his trucks. But provides little to the conversation with their straw man fallacies, and troll like rebuttals.

A great example of a blockable account.

Look at this users profile, review their post contribution. Click the three dots to open the actions, and select block this user.

Blocking doesn’t happen instantly because of cached data in your browser, but it is very effective.

And that’s how we keep this space enjoyable to use.

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Classic case of responding not to what is said, but who is saying it. In short…fuck off moron.

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Lmao that is a wild point of reference, buddy.

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It’s a way to demonstrate longer vehicles are nothing new, and still being driven besides. This is an urban planning failure being presented as otherwise.

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Urban planning for what is needed by the majority rather than demanded by the few.

Parking and roads in general are examples of induced demand.

Chances are whatever the size of the average parking space, people would buy cars too long or wide for them.

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People are still driving land yachts from the 70’s?

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Someone in the past thirty years?

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I mean that sounds clever if you don’t think about when the vehicles being bitched about were designed.

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Parking lot sizes here (de) are growing with the growing car sizes. The idea is that 85% of registered cars of similar type will fit, right now for ‘regular’ cars, the reference vehicle is a 2019 audi a6. Of course that does not mean that all the already existing parking lots have to be rebuilt, that would be crazy.

edit: i assume there are similar regulations in north america.

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What is the point of a truck you cannot fit a 2x4 in the back?

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Ya it is ridiculously hard to find a used truck with even a 6.5ft bed, people simply don’t order them. Single cab long bed 4x4 is cream of the crop but they barely even exist

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Satiates societally ingrained Petro-Masculinity for patriarchal men who are insecure about their status as a man in the modern age.

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Petro-masculinity is a brilliant term.

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2 points

Could have easily said “little dick syndrome”

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Nahh that’s misandrist and body shaming. This definition is better.

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As a truck owner, I also do not need a big truck. I loved my B4000, However there are no small options now, and I can’t afford multiple vehicles. You want solid furniture delivered 150km on a bike? Make the space, but charge for access.

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If I were to pay someone to move furniture. I’d get someone with a van.

If I were move furniture myself, I’d rent a van.

The reason smaller long bed trucks don’t get bought is because you might as well get a van. A roof is generally a good thing.

Modern trucks are nothing more than a bodge to get around safety regulations for ordinary cars.

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Interesting it’s just trucks that are the problem, and not SUVs as well. Just as large, hell some weigh more.

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In the US, SUVs are considered “Light trucks” and the same regulations apply to them.

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They are part of the problem too.

They’re also literally a truck with a roof over the bed.

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The spa-burban is a truck.

Is it a 6000lb monster on a truck frame and enjoying the worse/looser safety regs? Then Truck.

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Most are on a literal “truck” frame. Silverado/suburban for example.

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That ignores big unibody SUVs. Most that I’m speaking to are not on truck frames. For example https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1720016/ranked-every-unibody-non-luxury-three-row-crossover/

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