58 points

I’m 42, overweight, and poor. I’m an elderly middle-aged person who’s maybe got 20-25 years to go.

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41 but If I go another 20 with my stress ima be amazed.

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10 points

The way you put it like that sounds so crass and soulless.

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10 points

It’s true though.

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5 points

It’s just really hard to talk about expected lifetimes and not sound that way.

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5 points

What should it be, then?

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2 points

Something like, “I’m alive, in fairly good health, and I do not define my value by how much I’m able to work or how many years I have left to live.”

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48 points

My kids say:

Birth to 30 is young.

31-60 is middle aged.

Over 60 is old.

Over 90 is fucking old.

People are aging more slowly than they did in the past, better information about health now. Look up 55 year old celebrities. These are certainly middle aged people, they aren’t young, and most don’t look old either. That is how I would define middle age and it’s getting longer. You can’t get old at 40, you will be old too long.

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12 points

A lot of that has to do with smoking. Smoking adds wrinkles. It makes you look older. A lot of older celebrities smoked and a lot of younger ones don’t.

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11 points

Celebrities pay a lot of money to stay looking the way they do, and most people who have to work labor and stuff dont have the privilege to look or feel that way

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Sure, totally agree. But average people too - we just are not aging as fast as our parents or their parents. Not so much a longer life, just not as old for as long.

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Celebrities also have the best health care, access to the best food, and personal trainers. There’s a reason you only really see them either dying from freak accident, substance abuse, or random hard to beat cancer.

The rest of us do not get those allowances.

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6 points

You stfu, 30s is not middle aged

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It blew my mind to learn that Bob Odenkirk was 52 when they started filming Better Call Saul. To me, he looked like he was in his 30s.

(I’m not that great at estimating age just by looking at someone, though.)

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Yeah, you just need to start with enough money you don’t need to work.

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11 points

Good ol get born rich scheme

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Exactly. This guy working to 65 because he’s been tricked, not because he needs to.

Dude, most of us would stop working if we could, and those that would keep working would only be doing it because they enjoy it. Nobody’s getting tricked into working longer.

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“Coerced” would be a better term, but I think the idea behind “tricked” is that there’s a wealth of propaganda that normalizes dedicating your life to your career and defining yourself by your vocation. We’re being decieved by people who profit by maintaining the status quo, even when the status quo is harmful.

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Overall average lifespan is a misleading statistic because it includes people who die young (infant mortality for example really brings it down). As you get older, the average lifespan for someone of your specific age increases.

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does it… keep increasing?

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It does, because we’re talking about the total lifespan instead of remaining lifespan. A person who is 120 may have a 10% chance of living another year; but a 50 year old probably has less than a 1% chance living 71 more years. Of course the 50 year old probably has more than a 99% chance of living another year. So the older you are, the older your expected total lifespan is, even if your expected remaining lifetime is shorter.

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You’re absolutely right, stats are a very misunderstood subject. It’s difficult to contextualize stats like this when the population is so large. My measurement for when I got old was when I started to meet old friends and at some point in the conversation we begin talking about other friends who we both knew who’ve passed away since the last time we’ve talked.

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A person who is 120 has a less than 1 percent chance of living to the next year. 120 is the maximum lifespan of humans so far. Only one person in recorded history has lived past 120, and she made it to 122.

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8 points

Infinitely. The more you age, the older you get.

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2 points

At some point it increases by 1 for each year you live!

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They exclude infant morality from average lifespan. And there’s limited returns. At about 60-65 a large die off starts in an age cohort. Half of them will not make it 75, and three quarters will not make it to 85. Very few make it to 100.

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73 seems pretty low. It’s 77,28 years in the US and 81,41 here in the Netherlands.

Still, it’s weird people call 50 middle aged when it’s more like 40.

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Well but 50 makes sense though you are kinda useless in your first 20-25 years then you start working acquiring experience etc 25 years later you are in the middle then 25 years later you die

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3 points

It makes sense if you look at it like that

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73 years is the life expectancy of a men in the US. Females tend to get 5-6 years older than men.

Ethnicity, as well as economic resources also play a huge role.

Even your zip code is an indicator:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data-visualization/life-expectancy/index.html

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If I understand this correctly, it’s life expectancy at birth, right? So if you read this, the relevant-to-you life expectancy is even lower. Though AFAIK you also get a “bonus” for still being alive, so it’s probably a wash …

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