I see a lot of posts on fediverse trashing reddit, Twitter, spez, musk and so on, and rightfully so. But like it or not, the mass majority of users on the internet still use these sites, and some of us still want to interact with the friends and communities we are a part of on those sites. And there’s nothing wrong with that either.

Personally, I want fediverse to grow, and I post on kbin and mastodon constantly, and try to grow the communities on them. But I still pop over to reddit for r/splatoon, r/casualconveration, and my hometown sub, because either the communities haven’t grown enough here yet for constant fresh content, or the content is different enough between both to justify me checking in.

I get many are here as a protest against reddit, Twitter, or where ever else you came from, and that’s valid. But there are many of us who are simply casual users who want to include fediverse into their drives of other social media, and that’s totally fine too.

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Some of the people who came here as a form of protest no longer want to support Reddit in any form, whether it be by creating content/comments or just seeing ads. “Nothing wrong” is very subjective; if a person believes that Reddit is detrimental and should die, then they won’t agree that there’s nothing wrong in going there. Realistically, Reddit isn’t going to go away anytime soon, but this is an argument about principles and values, and we don’t all share the same ones.

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Spot on. I don’t care if Reddit continues to exist or fades away; my interaction with it stopped with third party apps.
And with Lemmy, I don’t feel any need to engage with Reddit using their mobile site/app.

To each their own, but Lemmy has been far more interesting, even in smaller communities.

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This feels like the correct take to me. I still view the occasional Reddit post but only as an absolute last resort for information I can’t find anywhere else. Even though I don’t post, comment, or vote, I’m still aware that my mere presence there is helping them in some form.

It’s similar to the recent Harry Potter game. Lots of people decided that it’s far enough removed from Rowling to be okay to buy even if they were pro-trans. But everyone who bought it DID give some of their money to Rowling. It’s your decision to weigh the cost/benefit of such a thing, but it was a little shocking to see how many supposedly pro-trans people straight up deluded themselves into thinking they weren’t directly supporting Rowling and her anti-trans views.

So yeah, use Reddit still if you must; I certainly understand how much important/useful content and information lives exclusively there, and the overzealous Reddit boycotters may be missing this (or just don’t care). But don’t pretend like using it isn’t also supporting them.

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Reddit does still have the advantage of being highly indexed by search engines.

A Lemmy instance on the other hand probably wouldn’t have that same benefit.

How often do people search for “how to [insert thing here]. Reddit” to find a worthwhile source of info that isn’t clickbait?

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Exactly - there are many shades of grey here. Since I’ve been on Kbin I’ve rarely checked Reddit at all, but I’ve been on it once or twice to check a few of the health support communities I’m in which is something Reddit really does have the lead on at the moment until more people come over here

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In my mind, the protest isn’t over and anyone still using Reddit is a scab, crossing the digital picket line. Though the people still sabotaging Reddit through malicious compliance are sort of an exception, but I doubt those are the majority. There’s a lot of communities I still miss on Reddit, but I’ve turned my back on it and I’m not returning unless they were to make major changes.

Twitter has always been hot garbage even before Musk, so I’d look down on anyone who used that anyways.

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Agree with everything you said, but there’s nothing Reddit could do to win me back. They’re a corporation and stopped pretending to give a shit about their users. Reversing their decision to go public would catch my eye, but there’s an ice cubes chance in hell of that happening. And even if they did, they’re 1 threat from VC away from pulling similar scummy shit again a year down the line.

The way I see it, fediverse is the only way forward.

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Like people can totally do what they want, and I’m not sure how to best articulate this, but if you want lemmy to supplant reddit it’s better to not use Reddit at all.

Main issue being (most) people who browse both will almost always stop checking one eventually. And since Lemmy is the currently the smaller of the two it has very high fizzle risk.

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Lemmy (shorthand for the fediverse at large) was never going to supplant reddit in the short term, but the API boondoggle helped lemmy to grow at a huge rate since mid-June.

Does anyone think Reddit is done doing dumb shit? I don’t, and thr next time they do a dumb Lemmy will be much closer to a true alternative to reddit than it was a month ago.

It will probably take multiple missteps by Reddit (or one huge one), but each one will chip away and then eventually I think lemmy will be in the spot reddit was in when digg did their final dumb.

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I have crawled back to twitter, but only out of a need to keep up with my wrestling news, and insert random game i’m playing, and I want to be part of the ongoing whatevers, 7daystodie for example.

I’m only using it on PC and with RES, so hey no adverts. Not installing it on my phone tho, screw that blasted app.

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Excuse the shameless self-promotion, and it’s not quite /r/gaming where it’s nothing but memes, nostalgia-bait and cosplay, but myself and the rest of the /r/truegaming mod team are here: @truegaming / !truegaming

If you weren’t familiar with the subreddit: it’s a discussion-focused community for having more high-level, in-depth conversations about games and their design. Think essays and random deep-dives rather than memes, questions, gameplay footage.


I agree that the lack of more specific, focused communities - like game-specific ones - here is the biggest drawback compared to Reddit right now. With time, I’m sure that’ll change, and right now, jumpstarting communities you want to see here is a good idea if you have the ability to.

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Oooh awesome, thanks mate

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Loved your community when I was on Reddit. I remembered when it used to be absurd having to wait an entire month just to even post there. r-gaming is some of the most toxic gaming-based subreddits on there. The mods are ban-happy on that subreddit if you’re not regurgitating content in the same vein as the rest do. What I got tired of on there particularly, was the circlejerking outrage porn that happened at any instance whether it’s a game company’s decision or whatever. It was just down to the fact that some fanboy is simply unhappy so they’ve gotta go on a tirade to rile everyone up and go review bomb something.

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There are gaming communities/magazines over here, though. They’re just not as active as Reddit because there aren’t as many people over here. I think it’s precisely because there are three gaming communities/magazines split over kbin, lemmy, and beehaw that no one has quite settled on which one is the main one. Unless you join all three, you miss stuff.

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Yea I think i’m on all three too, early days I guess :)

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Very. Here’s to hoping that one of them starts standing out as the main one. Consolidation will help a lot, I think.

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Yeah my mobile has Memmy and Surfboard for Tildes; between the two I get my doom scroll fix. I have almost never used reddit without RES on the desktop but Ill still browse probably once a day between my feeds and /all for a great deal less than I used to.

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Ahh I keep forgetting about Tildes, I hate the PC experience but I have surfboard installed, which is much better. It’s a decent place, I just haven’t totally clicked with it yet.

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It would also help if I could post or reply there too lol. I’ll just keep watch on t/Tildes for their next account give aways for now, lol

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For me, the issues with reddit and Twitter are moral ones. Twitter consors whatever fascist leaders ask them to, and harmful misinformation is highlighted. Reddit has intentionally excluded disabled people from their site. Both of those I don’t want to support.

I understand some people see it as “the websites are just worse now but I’m a casual user so it doesn’t bother me”, but it’s a bigger issue than that for some of us.

I’m not going to go out of my way to shit on anyone for still using those sites, and I haven’t seen any of that on the fediverse either. This post comes off as you trying to make yourself feel better. If you feel bad about it then … stop using them? If you don’t then continue on with your life.

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This is where I’m at too. Thoughts don’t matter beyond your own self, only actions propagate into the real world. Stand by your convictions. Under its current leadership, Reddit deserved none of my engagement.

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