Shit or get off the pot.
If you’re trying to keep track of where we’re at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 01/08/2024
Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 4th, 2024, one day before Super Tuesday primaries.
Jack Smith had requested that the Supreme Court immediately rule on Trump’s immunity defense, the Court rejected the request, requiring it to go through the usual appeals process first.
Conviction
Sentencing
New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Georgia
13 state felonies
Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
All 19 defendants have surrendered.
Trial - A trial date of Aug. 5, 2024 has been requested, not approved yet.
Three defendants, Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, and bail bondsman Scott Hall, have all pled guilty and have agreed to testify in other cases.
The judge in the case has set a deadline of December 1st for all motions to be filed, expect a trial date at some point after that.
Conviction
Sentencing
Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it’s a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus. and has now been determined to be for damages only as Trump was already found liable.
As a function of the January 6th and Georgia trials, there are now lawsuits in two states to bar Trump from the primary ballot based on the insurrection clause of the 14th Amendment.
Colorado:
12/19/23 - The Colorado Supreme Court has ruled that Trump is not eligible for the primary ballot due to being barred by the 14th Amendment as an insurrectionist.
The Supreme Court has agreed to hear arguments starting Thursday, February 8th.
Minnesota:
11/8/2023 - State Supreme Court denies challenge, allows ballot access.
Maine:
12/29/2023 - Maine’s Secretary of State has ruled that Trump is not qualified for the ballot., which is now being challenged.
A long-shot write in candidate for President has also filed suits seeking to bar Trump from the ballot in Florida, Kansas, Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Utah, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
His cases in Arizona, California, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and West Virginia have been thrown out:
https://www.wmur.com/article/new-hampshire-donald-trump-ballot-lawsuit-dismiss/45682757
This should be updated with the US Supreme Court hearing the appeal against Colorado Supreme Court removing Trump from the ballot, which will start being heard on 8 Feb.
Thank you for collecting all this information in one place, it is appreciated! Does a website or blog exist where this information is posted and updated? If not, there should be.
Not to my knowledge. I started putting it together on reddit because there were enough investigations going on, any time there was news, people would complain “why isn’t he in jail already!!!” and I’m like “No, no, you don’t get it… this isn’t a TV show, it’s a whole PROCESS…”
So I set out to show the process:
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing
For crimes of this magnitude it takes YEARS.
That’s not how the legal system works. If you come at the king you best not miss and jack has no interest in missing.
I’d rather have an air tight case given how slippery Trump has been. You clearly understand how difficult this is yet here you are advocating for a rush job.
Let him cook.
It’s been three fucking years. I strenuously object to the notion that building even an airtight case for crimes we all witnessed live on national fucking TV really needed to take this goddamn long!
For perspective, by this amount of time had passed after the Beer Hall Putsch, Hitler had been arrested, tried, convicted, imprisoned, wrote a shitty book, and pardoned and released again. If even the Weimar fucking Republic – damn near a failed state – could manage that, what do these ridiculous delays say about us?!
In principle I agree. But the truth is the GOP has gone fully rogue. They aren’t even playing the same game, let alone by the same rules. The more latitude Trump and those in thrall to him are afforded, the more likely an actual, effective, coup is executed. The deeper into the process Trump gets, the more legitimaized he becomes. The more legitimaized he becomes the more the “implications” increase. Basically he needs to be removed from the game as soon as possible because time is a huge factor. He’s very good at stall tactics, and he is very good at making sure things do or do not stay in the public consciousness. In short, the most dangerous thing you can give Trump to play with is time.
I’m with you on the legal side, but on the media side, wtf. I’m tired of having to check whether each piece of new, devastating evidence is in fact a) new and not some new wrapper around an article from yesterday b) actually devastating, not routine filing and c) relevant at all.
That’s no dig at this particular article, but these headlines are inducing a “shit or get off the pot” mentality as far as trying to keep up.
Edit: I would like to note that this headline engages in speculation (note the word “may”). That is some “shit or get off the pot” shit. I’m tired of what “may” happen. At least in the headline. Speculation has its place. It’s in the body of a well-sourced article.
The media has been milking the nations politics for a long time now. In 2016 CBS CEO was quoted saying Trump was making them lots of money. It’s the same thing here, they think they can outlast the fascism so they don’t seem to care about the damage it does
Not to say that those that write articles about how extra doomed Trump is this time for sure but probably not yet…… are hurting the nation like CBS did with Trump but it does have a negative effect.
I guess they don’t want people to forget but the fatigue is real. That’s part of trumps delay tactic and his bullshit as a whole for that matter
If the legal system cannot hold Trump accountable before hes able to get elected president and make these investigations stop then the legal system doesn’t work. A system that cannot protect itself from the people it’s supposed to punish is fundamentally broken, and that’s looking like where we are. Cling to the broken system and you should expect broken results.
I’m so tired of these that I’m nimb to it. I’ve resigned myself to a bleak Donald Trump filled future.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Is this the relevant part?
Former Trump aide Nick Luna also shared that when the ex-president was told about Vice President Mike Pence’s need to be moved to a secure location, Trump responded by saying “So what?” Luna perceived this as an “unexpected willingness” on Trump’s part to expose a longtime loyalist to potential harm.
“Indeed, Trump’s angry response to Scavino’s comment to him that there’s smoke coming out of the Capitol in effect was, ‘Let it Burn,’” Gershman said. “And his nonchalant indifference to Vice President Pence’s safety and welfare offers chilling proof that Trump’s conscious purpose, namely, his intent, was first to incite an insurrection and then by his inaction to demonstrate his intent that the insurrection effectively stop Congress from doing its constitutional duty to certify the election results.”
This proof would be “powerful circumstantial” evidence of Trump’s criminal intent underlying all the federal charges, he added.
This salon article is basically a re-posting of this article linked:
Basically the tldr is it’s testimony that was recently disclosed publicly for the first time in a new motion from someone around him as the insurrection was unfolding. Lots of details about his mindset and what he was doing at the time, but one particularly interesting one was apparently trump decided to make the tweet about “Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done” minutes after hearing he was in danger, some more solid evidence he was trying to get his coup followers to attack Pence and others. Interesting details about what went down that will no doubt be helpful in court, but the headline is a bit sensationalized I think.
This is reminding me of Muller and how it was all talk that amounted to nothing
“Amounted to nothing”? Did you read the report? There was plenty of evidence that Mueller put forward that should have amounted to a case. The only remaining questions were if Trump was even aware he was being assisted and actively colluding, and if a sitting president could be prosecuted. Mueller decided he had to be impeached and removed before action could be taken, and his cult protected him.
That’s not “all talk”, that’s Republicans putting their own interests over the country.
Muller’s report was like… Yo, this guy did some things that definitely could be considered crimes. As an investigator, I referred them to the DoJ, as bringing a case against the president was not part of my mandate.
That then Bill Barr was like… Eh, he’s white and rich and he’s forwarding a christofacist agenda, so I don’t think we need to charge him with anything.
People went to jail because of Mueller’s good work. Is that what your mean by “nothing”?
You may have wanted Trump to go to jail or be forced out of office but there was no chance of either of those given that Trump was President.
Yeah, that guy.
That head guy at the FBI that said Trump was fine after reviewing the report … that guy is now in prison for being a Russian asset.
