Clemson University to ban TikTok on all campus networks effective Monday, July 10.

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IMHO, this isn’t s good move. I don’t have any love for TikTok but I hate fascism even more.

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I’m not following. Can you elaborate a bit on how a private university banning TikTok is fascism?

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Is it also racist that China has banned Facebook and many other US based services?

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Dude, some people just prefer longer form content. To each their own.

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Clemson isn’t private, it’s public. It is certainly their prerogative to secure their network and their users’ data but there are definitely concerns over government censorship. I don’t think this issue is as black and white as people ITT are making it out to be and absent a larger policy stance that would van TikTok or it’s practices, I’m not sure this is the right move though I understand their position given the inaction of state and national legislatures in banning foreign spyware

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They’re not banning their students from using tiktok, they’re blocking access to a website on their own networks. That is how network security works. I have many IP addresses block for many customers because some website shouldn’t be accessed on networks with PII. It’s really not that complicated.

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Lol how is it fascism if you could just use your mobile data to access whatever weird social network you want?

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Because there is no real Operational Security justification for its ban, that doesn’t instantly catch all US-based social media platforms as well. It’s not about security, it’s about control. The feds have no under-the-table deals or even overt surveillance partnerships with TikTok. They do have that with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and beyond. In fact, the CIA has financial stakes with those companies as well, and often were early sources of funding for them: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/social-media-is-a-tool-of-the-cia-seriously/

Which I guess is fine because the CIA has never been the enemy of the American people, ever.

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So an American school doesn’t block an American website that American intelligence agencies have access to and you’re wondering why they wouldn’t allow a Chinese website that Chinese intelligence agencies probably have access to? I completely agree that Meta and Twitter and all that are horrible for security but it’s still relevant who houses that data. I choose not to use any of them but it’s completely understandable why a country would hesitate to trust a foreign nation we have no relevant triety with.

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facism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

I think you’d be better off just saying censorship.

Ultimately though we’ve never seen anything like this, the old school rules for what constitutes acceptable censorship might need some adjusting (especially as society learns more about what closed source algorithms made by hostile foreign powers used by the youth – and general population – of a nation can actually do to said nation).

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It would violate my constitutional right to performing dance trends in my dining hall.

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Yay!!! The Chinese Spyware has been banned 📿

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Horray, communism is no more!

/s

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Long live American spyware 😍

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Fake news. American government would never spy on its own citizens!!

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There is no known western API access directly into your phones through any major social media company and if it were known it would get patched. I’ll take the American spyware over the CCP spyware any day of the week, thank you very much.

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And how the fuck do they plan on enforcing it when anyone can turn off wifi with a toggle switch?

This is stupid. Beyond stupid.

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They’re only going to enforce it on their networks, if you want to run it on your cell that’s up to you. I think the point is to discourage it overall. If every institution makes the hurdle to use it higher, that will stem the use of it on campus.

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If the only speed bump you’re putting in front of addicts is a toggle switch you’re not going to stop anyone.

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I think you are seriously underestimating the laziness of your average college student, but that’s just my opinion.

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M8 one more time: it is not about stopping students from using tiktok, it is about preventing tiktok from being accessed on the school network. No one cares if you turn off wifi and go on tiktok, that is literally what they want you to do if you wish to access it.

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What exactly would be the OpSec justification for blocking it?

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Lol how are they expecting to crack down on this if you can just use cell data.

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I think this is more to discourage the use. Using cell data for video can add up quickly.

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That is the point.

People can use their own cell data to watch meme videos instead of hogging all the network bandwidth and slowing down wifi speeds for all the students who are trying to get actual schoolwork done.

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I guess VPN will be more popular.

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