New ‘Star Trek’ In The Works With ‘Andor’ Director Toby Haynes On Board

https://deadline.com/2024/01/andor-toby-haynes-star-trek-movie-seth-grahame-smith-writing-1235712646/

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30 points

It’s beginning to feel like Charlie Brown and the football at this point, but let’s see if they can actually get this one off the ground.

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Basically where I’m also at.

Also, as someone noted in a Discord chat about it, “decades before” only gives you a small window between the start of the Kelvin universe and Trek '09, otherwise too far back and you’re making a Prime Timeline movie. So that’ll be interesting to see what they plan.

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only gives you a small window between the start of the Kelvin universe and Trek '09,

I mean…we could all pretend the Kelvin timeline doesn’t exist…

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I think the kelvin timeline is great for the sole fact that it is what peaked my interest in trek. I recently just finished watching everything trek and it was because the 09 movie was cool and got me to start watching the different tv series.

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I would take that with a grain of salt - it’s a general-purpose Hollywood outlet reporting what their sources told them, so there could be room for inaccuracies.

They could also follow Simon Pegg’s contention that the Kelvin and Prime timelines could be different at any point in history (which I support).

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@ValueSubtracted @startrek Well like we said, all news about a Star Trek film comes with lots of salt onboard 😂

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5 points

At this point the Kelvin timeline is just a handwavey excuse for recasting Kirk and crew of TOS and following movies. And a prequel to Kelvin is an excuse to recast those parts with younger actors.

Personally, I could care less about new movies featuring the TOS characters. Star trek evolved past them 30 years ago, I wish Hollywood would realise that.

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Kelvin broke the seal on recasting, as it were.

If Discovery or SNW had been the first to recast Kirk, there would have been a revolt, but since Kelvin got us used to the idea people just kind of accept it.

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There are actually differences in the Prime and Kelvin timelines that happened before Nero’s incursion. For instance, Kirk’s date of birth is off by several months. They tried to justify that afterwards by saying something about the event sending shockwaves through time to change things before it even happened or something like that. The real reason probably lies in that interview where JJ Abrams admitted he never liked Star Trek, but you could argue that the removal of various down-stream time travel events, like the events of “The City on the Edge of Forever” likely not happening in the modified timeline, could actually cause retroactive changes to the timeline.

But anyway, the Kelvin timeline already diverges before the Kelvin-Narada thing, because reasons.

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Another change is Enterprise being built on earth instead of in orbit.

I’m almost entirely sure that choice was because JJ Abrams wanted that visual in his movie. Justifications to Trek nerds were an afterthought.

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2 points

Yeah, I’ll believe it when I see it.

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22 points

As always, I will not actually believe there is a new Trek movie being made until my butt is in the seat, with a popcorn in one hand, Dr. Pepper in the second hand, opening credits already rolling on the screen.

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7 points

You mean Cherry Mr. Pibb

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Y’know, I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen Mr. Pibb available here, but I still believe my having one at the theatre is more likely than there being a new Star Trek movie in theatres any time soon.

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1 point

They only sell it at Chipotle where I’m at. I’m tempted to order a box

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2 points

They don’t have Dr. Pepper at my movie theater so I guess this movie really is never seeing the light of day :/

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Now this I’m interested in. Andor was a quite good and, importantly, character-driven study of a desperate man growing to challenge an insurmountable empire… You know, in contrast to the exhaustive world building and effects-heavy “pew pew” fan service that has become the rest of modern star wars

I dare say, I’d also enjoy this film much more than the nixed Tarantino film

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8 points

Andor was the best story of the Disney trash. I think anybody could watch it and be compelled. I think because Andor has a hard end in Rogue One, they need to go hard and establish him as a bad ass.

I’m sad to hear Tarantino got negged on ST though.

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Anyone else bothered by yet another prequel? Enterprise, Kelvin films, Discovery (s1-2), strange new worlds … there’s clearly a hesitancy to do something new right?

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I’m OK with more prequels if it means letting Terry Matalas continue handling the post-TNG timeline.

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I’m with you.

The fun thing about the Matalas post-TNG/legacy thing for me is that it nicely straddles the line between being new and nostalgic. Seven would be captain and a whole bunch of other stuff too would be new, but still connected to the TNG era past.

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2 points

It doesn’t bother me at all, because I don’t think a fictional universe needs to have a “default” setting.

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8 points

Aren’t prequels the default setting? What trek have we had since voyager that didn’t have a Spock or Soong in it?

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1 point

Lower Decks, Prodigy, Picard, late-period Discovery…is that enough? Should I continue?

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11 points

I know people like to say Trek was meant for the small screen, but I honestly love all the (well, non Kelvin) movies and am very excited for this.

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4 points

It’s me. I’m people.

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2 points

The article seems to suggest this film is part of the Kelvin line.

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5 points

In that case I regret ever being born

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