CCTV footage of incidents adds to concerns over military’s rules of engagement in Occupied Territories
Murder is murder and more murder will not fix anything. Building personal relationships and being compassionate will be the fix but how do you sit across the table from someone that shot your father? How do you empathize with someone who pushed for your removal?
This part of the world has become so broken that everyone has picked a side and has thrown humanity out the window.
I always see people blaming the American president but not Netinyahu or the Israeli government. It’s actually weird. As if he could stop the war unilaterally or like the US aid given to Israel is the only thing allowing it to happen.
I do not support Israel on this but I do find it weird how easy it has been for people to claim it as Biden’s fault alone.
I hear what you’re saying, Bibi and his cabinet of whack jobs are currently the main perpetrators. However, if for arguments sake, Biden sat down with Bibi on October 8th and outlined very clear red lines for it’s military aid, ensuring any action that was to be undertaken by Israel would be discriminate and proportionate, we’d be in a VERY different position right now.
Biden and the US military aid to Israel is not the only thing enabling the genocide in Gaza, but the genocide in Gaza would not have been able to happen without it.
No Democratic voter is going to concede this, even though you’re right.
They will argue that poor Sleepy Joe is an innocent bystander in all this and completely powerless to stop it, even though he could very well stop Israel from getting five billion in charity annually from us that directly helps them annihilate civilians in Gaza.
Biden could do more, but that last sentence in your comment sounds far fetched to me. Or are you saying that because we’ve been aiding Israel all these years, that’s made it possible? I think that’s a gross oversimplification if so.
Biden could and SHOULD do a whole lot more to pressure Israel to end it. He should have said to stop on day 1.
But any aid or supplies we do or don’t send to them wouldn’t make a difference. They have an entire arsenal of military options and resources and have all the control and power over Gaza.
It’s not his fault alone, but he’s a very strong supporter of Israel and is a major reason the situation became as bad as it is now. The POTUS can basically veto any Israeli policy or action involving Palestine, because even if we set aside the aid Israel just can’t afford to lose the veto protection at the UN.
Every single US president has been a vocal ally of Israel. Joe Biden is literally doing nothing different than any of his predecessors including Trump.
Biden has given Israel “no red lines” and has backed them without question. The US has all the cards when it comes to controlling Israel and refuses to play any of them. Just threaten to cut aid and they’ll stop. Threaten to not back them in the UN. Threaten to recognize the genocide. Threaten to recognize them as an apartheid state. Threaten to recognize their nukes. Threaten to recognize reality and they’ll fold.
When Israel was bombing Lebanon, Reagan just gave them a blank stare and said “but it looks like a holocaust” and they stopped. Because Israel is nothing without the US and despite all Bibi’s bluster they know that.
Both the Israelis and the Palestinians have a casus belli. They are mortal enemies stuck together on the same piece of ground. Hamas literally has the goal of eradicating Israel, and they are supported in that goal by Iran and Hezbollah. Hamas aren’t “freedom fighters” trying to achieve a reasonable and peaceful compromise toward a two-state solution.
October 7 was conducted deliberately by Hamas to prompt an over-response by Israel. Hamas is hiding among the population and in tunnels under people’s homes knowing damn well that their presence is causing the death of tens of thousands of their countrymen.
Did the civilian population ask to used as human shields? I doubt it. Hamas decided to start a war without the consent of Gaza’s population.
I always see people blaming the American president but not Netinyahu or the Israeli government.
Biden doesn’t have to support Netanyahu’s genocide.
Well for me personally, I get to tell Biden what to do because hes supposed to represent me. If I lived in Isreal I’d probably be yelling about Bibi and wouldn’t say anything about Biden. I have no power, not even theoretical, over Bibi.
Criticizing Biden is fine. There’s more nuance to what I’m saying than that. The phrase “genocide joe” illustrates it perfectly for me. A weird trump-style nickname that is supposed to pin the whole thing on him. He should act very differently, but that doesn’t make it entirely a Biden thing.
I think you meant to say #genocideNetanyahu. But that doesn’t sound as catchy and doesn’t push whatever deluded maga narrative you wish was reality. You want so badly to vilify anyone that isn’t your fascist leader that you’ll blame a genocide perpetrated by another country on him. Wild.
But also, fuck Biden for not condemning Netanyahu and Israel on day 1. Genocide is never ok. And sending support to someone doing it is horrendous, but it is not the same as doing it.
We’re being manipulated by Joe Biden being a loud and proud Zionist and not denouncing literal genocide? Listen to yourself.
If he doesn’t want to be tied to genocide, all he has to do is stop supporting genocide.
peaceful Israel
“peaceful” my ass:
(from 2019)
More than 6,000 unarmed demonstrators were shot by military snipers, week after week at the protest sites by the separation fence.
Yeah, because Israel wasn’t continuously billing innocent Palestinians without provocation for the past 60 years. You’re brainwashed
Wow, sorry guy, I could definitely tell you were being sarcastic. Don’t forget the /s!
Let’s just call this what it is, and what it will always be until the end of time. Two religions forced to live in a shoebox together.
Religion is to blame, both sides having their fairytale that is incompatible with the other side’s fairytale.
I’m done arguing, fighting, defending or taking sides in any of it. Every ten years we rinse and repeat this bullshit and it’s over nothing more than the fictional stories of two man made books.
And have no illusions, NO MATTER THE OUTCOME here we will be arguing about this same shit again in ten more years.
