I don’t know why I even bother opening the settings app

44 points

Install Linux, be done with the Microsoft windows shit.

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Wow, I had to scroll past 5 comments to see a Linux circlejerk. What’s happening to Lemmy??

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This is a post complaining about an operating system. Someone else recommends an operating system that doesn’t have this problem. Where’s the circlejerk?

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It’s just a well-known trope of Lemmy nowadays that whenever any issue with any OS is reported, rather than providing advice for the situation the default response is often “FUCK [OS], USE LINUX”. It’s become so common that it’s essentially now viewed by non-Linux users as Linux users just engaging in a circlejerk of their favourite OS. I know that circlejerks usually require more than one person but the Lemmy hivemind tends to respond this way, so a single comment (that is usually highly upvoted) is viewed as a circlejerk.

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9 points

I’m here to be jerked off by a Linux user, can anyone let me join in?

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1 point

My manjaro install broke 5 hours after I installed it. My latop speakers never worked…

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1 point

That sucks. Laptops are always a bit trickier. Linux works flawlessly on most things I install it on these days. Manjaros been on my desktop for the past 4 years.

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1 point

I reinstalled and am now making backups but my speakers still don’t work :(

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9 points

Don’t use manjaro mate. Install something stable like Debian or Fedora.

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If you do that, people will claim that your new problems originate from slow updating OS and will say that arch is the answer.

Then people will say that the problems you experience in arch are non existent on stable distros. Forever.

Sometimes, windows is just a better OS.

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1 point

Found the problem because of which kde was not booting. Still have no speakers but that’s how it is I guess.

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windows 7-style control panel is one of the most non intuitive uis ever created

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I agree.

We’re both going to get downvoted but the settings app has a much better UI than control panel full stop. The problem is the years of development that have gone into it only for the settings app to redirect to the control panel anyway for 50% of the things you want to do because they still haven’t been bothered to actually integrate everything directly into the app.

If you could actually do everything in the settings app that you could do in the control panel after 3 versions of windows I don’t think it would be so universally disliked.

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10 points

Isn’t this what the whole post is about? Not having all the settings / info in the new settings?

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3 points

It’s the same as M365, and they’re always changing where things are located and renaming things. So stupid.

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If you could actually do everything in the settings app that you could do in the control panel after 3 versions of windows I don’t think it would be so universally disliked

This was my biggest gripe with the settings app when I still used Windows

I use linux now, and for someone like me who likes to tinker and script, it has been amazing

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win11 settings app can do a lot on it’s own, most network settings can now be configured there (except if you need to configure some obscure protocol or sth) DHCP, DNS, static/dynamic ipv4/ipv6 options, DoH both per-adapter and per-network are there

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5 points

Everything I need is configurable through PowerShell for years. Why bother with UI? Win 7, 10 or 11 - it’s all the same.

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Yeah I’ve been a mixed environment sysadmin for many years and still to keep need a Windows desktop at home and powershell makes it all happen. I basically do a complete debloat of my install and and all that. I actually like the overall Windows 11 desktop environment but omg the bloatware is insane I don’t know how people use it without knowing how to clean it up.

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Enterprise editions don’t have bloat, no need to do much :)

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Very true! Enterprise iso and MAS and basically done. My previous builds have mostly all been Enterprise edition and I’d definitely go that route if I knew 11 was gonna be so bad. A part of me was curious after hearing so much hate, and I didn’t mind learning how to remove it all because I could see it coming in useful for helping others, it was a good way to get exposed to all of it and I found some helpful tools I can send to people now.

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Because I don’t have all the commands to do everything memorized. Also powershell versions and compatibility / features have changed a lot over the years.

Not to say that Powershell is a bad thing in any way, it is quite useful for the stuff I do at work. But it is a mess just like the rest of MS.

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6 points

Can it list available settings that could be changed, because if so it is an almost perfect replacement for the settings app?

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im planning to switch from windows 11 to linux mint in 2026

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Unpopular opinion: Linux Mint sucks ass and there are so many great distros to choose from, which aren’t Linux Mint. It looks like Windows XP and functions like Windows XP. Still uses X11, which doesn’t even have proper support for 1:1 touchpad gestures and handles multiple displays with different scaling factors and refresh rates in a way that is, well, hacky and janky at best or non-functional at worst.

I get that Linux Mint is easy to use because it’s made specifically to be as convenient as possible to users coming from Windows but jeez, it looks and feels like something from 2005, especially on a laptop…

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It’s s gateway drug. It’s ok to let them come in on Mint and Ubuntu, they’re scared and confused. Give them creature comforts. Once they’re warm and fuzzy, they’ll get inquisitive and branch out.

Regale to the Mint users the virtues of your better choices, but tell the windows users come on it and use whatever they’re comfortable with.

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6 points

I’ll take something from 2005 as a compliment to Linux Mint. Having installed it in 2006 you are absolutely correct. It’s shockingly boring lack of constant UI paradigm shifts almost makes me forget about the OS completely. I’m at the point in my Linux journey where I see slow adoption of new things as good. I accept others have setups that mint does not work for, but I would wager there is no Linux DE better suited as a first suggestion to try depending on the newness of the hardware. If you have 5 monitors of differing resolutions and frame rates then sure, there are better DEs.

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linux mint is working on wayland

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8 points

I’ve just started to daily drive Mint, after finding Fedora confusing and Ubuntu somehow slow and stuttery.

Every few years I try out Linux desktop and this is the first time I’ve found it usable enough for me. For the first time I’m not delving into forum posts from last decade to get simple stuff working.

What distro would you recommend that does desktop usability better than Mint?

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1 point

I don’t daily drive Linux myself yet, but I see a lot of people talking up Pop!OS

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1 point

I use debian and am very happy with it. It runs just fine on an 3-4 year old laptop (thinkpad).

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7 points

Linux Mint might look outdated but it’s stable as hell. Especially LMDE. Any time I mess around with arch/arch-based derivatives or any rolling release distros I’m quickly reminded why I chose to run Mint as my primary OS. I’m long past my distro hopping days so having something that works without question and doesn’t require any mucking around is huge for me.

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I used Mint when I first started playing around with Linux about a decade ago and it was pretty good. But I recently tossed it on a laptop that I primarily just wanted to run a web browser and have minimal faffing about and I’ve been extremely impressed with how it’s matured.

The DE is snappy and unobtrusive with extremely sane defaults. The software center is extremely usable and has very nice flatpak integration, their replacement desktop utilities for the Gnome utilities they once used are very full featured and don’t get in your way, and in most cases where Canonical built their own tool that nobody else uses, Mint has already swapped it with the standard tool. If your goal is to just get a Linux desktop going with minimal faffing about Mint has really become a brilliant choice to do so with

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8 points

Why not sooner?

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because if i say it it’s gonna be 2026 then it’s gonna hard to make me say 2024

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2 points

Just do it now, you won’t regret it, or install mint in a virtual machine and full screen it and get use to it, you’ll find yourself using windows less and less every day. My personal go to is Kubuntu, because I like the customization capabilities and lower memory footprint than Gnome. I hate tiling windows managers, so don’t recommend those please.

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It’s like Windows is devolving into really, REALLY early Linux, where a single Control Panel application is broken up into a half dozen separate parts and scattered throughout the interface in a dozen separate sub-sub-sub menus.

You should NOT have to hunt for the “print” button in a freaking word processor.

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4 points

Ctrl + p still works?

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I’m trying to remember but some Microsoft Office product did something entirely unexpected when I hit Ctrl+P to print. I wish I could remember the details but it was absolutely soul crushing seeing even basic keyboard shortcuts remapped

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9 points

I mean File->Print makes sense to me…

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