Was reminded how Epstien not killing himself was/is so accepted yet it’s still a conspiracy theory. Is there any similar ones you guys believe to be completely true ?

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Industries are making bad products on purpose to weed out consumers with standards, therefore breeding a crop of consumers that exist only to give their money to them if they ask.

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That is exactly why Shein and Temu exist as far as I can tell.

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I have no clue what temu even is, like what is it and how is it different than other sites?

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It’s not different than other sites. It’s exactly the same as Wish or Ali Express. Extremely cheaply made goods that will probably give you lead poisoning with enough use.

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Pound shop crap direct from the manufacturer

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From what I can see it’s the new Wish

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It’s basically the same as AliExpress or Wish but with the junk being warehoused in the US instead of China. So you can get your junk in like a week instead of a couple months.

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That’s just unregulated capitalism.

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This is like the physical product version of the Nigerian prince scam - have something so shit that the only people who engage with you are idiots.

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Can you clarify a bit?

Do you mean that they are trying to identify, corral, and market heavily to these low-standards consumers so as not to waste their time with the rest (analogous to email scams)?

Or more that they are progressively beating down our collective level of standard so as to make the cheap crap more broadly palatable?

I don’t necessarily disagree with either, but they are pretty different, so just curious which direction you are going.

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Is it a conspiracy theory if it’s damn near verifiably true?

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MLK was killed by the US Government/with Government warning and approval not because of his policies on race, but because his message was getting (though somewhat always had been) socialist/anti-capitalist, and between the historic fear of slave revolts, the new fear of communist revolutions, and the monied business interests not wanting to cede any power they ended MLK to prevent potential calls for a social revolution.

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It’s insane how many left leaning leaders were assassinated. And it isn’t a coincidence that it was during the red scare. What we KNOW about McCarthyism is crazy enough, now think of all the stuff they wouldn’t say out loud to fight the “red menace.”

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J Edgar Hoover wanted to round up all the “leftists” and put them in camps.

I put quotes around leftist because simply not hating black people was enough to get you on that list.

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People are so unaware how common politically motivated murder was in the late 19th/early 20th century in the US. Our country is rittled with shallow graves belonging to labor and civil rights activists. Wikipedia for example has a list documenting anti-labor murders totaling just over 1100 that we know of. Much of that violence was especially targeted towards black labor organizers.

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In both the BLM movement and OWS, leaders and organizers were still meeting untimely deaths and I don’t think the clandestine agencies of government have changed enough, (or at all), to rule them out.

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Fun new things keep coming out.

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Also tupac and biggie got removed becuase they spoke about things elites didnt like to be replaced by the prosperity rap clowns to worship them and their money to the plebs.

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sardines are actually a cheap, nutritious and filling dinner

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That ones not really a conspiracy. We know the FBI did it.

People just don’t care, which is the most fucked up part

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That doesn’t make it not a conspiracy, it makes it not a conspiracy theory. Instead, it is a factual conspiracy that is just not well known.

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People care, but what are you going to do? Until the majority is ready to violently overthrow corrupt institutions you’re stuck with it. Now getting the majority to agree on which ones are corrupt… hoo boy. Good luck, America.

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Do you really think making a martyr out of MLK is a strategy the US gov wouldn’t have anticipated had they murdered him/let him be murdered?

Dude would not be what he is today had he not been murdered.

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But as a martyr the government can paint him as being only about racism, not about economics.

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Also he was assassinated 4 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, so to say he wouldnt remembered without being killed is a gross exaggeration. It may have boosted his legacy, but there is not doubt he would still be an important figure in American history.

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Have you ever listened to MLK speak or read anything he’s written? Dude would absolutely be what he is today if he had not been murdered.

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Have you ever listened to MLK speak or read anything he’s written?

No I was raised in Antarctica.

Dude would absolutely be what he is today if he had not been murdered.

Not a chance. There is no shortage of motivational speakers in this world.

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Just the boring one: That all the exciting conspiracies (and other stuff like “culture wars”) are there to distract from the banal reality of most people and the world being exploited by a few selfish assholes.

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You don’t need a shadowy conspiracy when you make it legal to bribe politicians and write the laws for them. It’s all done out in the open. Regulators and board rooms have revolving doors for the same few people, and they all make insanely disgusting amounts of money while the rest of us suffer.

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I’m not saying a few people fucking over the rest is a conspiracy theory.

I’m saying that all those conspiracy theories people love to discuss are pushed to capture the attention of those people and have them think they’re involved in something important and spend all their energy on that, so the assholes can keep on fucking them over without much resistance.

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It’s interesting that the big “revelations” of conspiracy are things we jokingly referenced and always kind of knew:

Movie executives forcing women to sleep with them or be sexually assaulted to be able to work in the industry.

The catholic church sexually abusing children and covering it up.

Buying votes and Supreme Court judgements.

So what are we joking about now but not doing anything about? Russia owning an entire political party through blackmail? The Left is indoctrinating and grooming kids into thinking that their assigned-at-birth gender might not be their real gender and that non-heterosexual and nonmonogamous relationships are as legitimate as those Ordained By God and that pregnancy planning, prevention, and terminating is a women’s health care issue between them and their doctor and nobody else (I mean… yeah. I guess that conspiracy is openly true and not really a conspiracy but an openly stated goal, and not that we should be trying to prevent or stop it).

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I believe that Russia has dirt on a number of prominent Republicans. Trump is a given, what with his shady Russian financing, his connection to Epstein, the tape mentioned in the Steele dossier. But I think that there were a number of anti-Trumpers who turned on a dime. Lindsey Graham, for example, was very anti Trump for months and then became his biggest cheerleader literally overnight.

I think Russia had planned to damage Hillary in 2016, but never imagined that their man Trump would actually beat her. I think when they realized they had their man in the white house, they went all in, and used every bit of leverage they had to help him gain control of the party.

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This really isn’t a conspiracy, it’s pretty much just fact. The Mueller report was damning in showing the trump Russia connection. If we had sane bribery laws and a doj willing to prosecute it’d be a slam dunk. (Our bribery laws practically require an elected official while exercising their elected power to say “I’m doing this because of a sweet bribe”. Nothing less qualifies). Literally half of it was dedicated to Trump Russian connections.

The Senate intelligence report on Russian election interference confirmed the Mueller report, that the Russians were working to get trump into office.

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For Trump it’s not so much dirt but he got a lot funding after he was a disgraced business man in the 90s that hasn’t been sourced. I always thought he got it from Russia leading towards his allegiance to them.

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Russia hacked RNC and DNC servers and released only the interesting stuff from the Democrats’ servers. Never heard a peep of what they found on the RNC side but you can be certain it was way more shady than the little bit that came out about Democrats.

I think it’s that information plus probably longstanding financial ties to Russian donors that keeps many Republicans under Russian influence.

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Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is ultimately responsible for 1999 bombings, if you count is as a conspiracy theory that is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

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Kremlinology tripped me up way more than it should have.

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wth though. Call we contemporary American Political Analysis WhiteHouseology? WashingtonDCology?

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Just like we have audio evidence that Russia shot down that plane back in 2014

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ikr

and it happened again, and again, and again. russians get broke/angry -> manufacture crisis -> blame the outsider -> invade them -> putin remains a master strategist

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