The Android phone maker says go ahead, fix your own phone.

The right-to-repair movement continues to gain steam as another big tech company shows its support for letting people fix their own broken devices.

Google endorsed an Oregon right-to-repair legislation Thursday calling it a “common sense repair bill” and saying it would be a “win for consumers.” This marks the first time the Android phone maker has officially backed any right-to-repair law.

The ability to repair a phone, for example, empowers people by saving money on devices while creating less waste,” said Steven Nickel, devices and services director of operations for Google, in a blog post Thursday. “It also critically supports sustainability in manufacturing. Repair must be easy enough for anyone to do, whether they are technicians or do-it-yourselfers.”

In the Oregon repair bill, manufacturers will be required to provide replacement parts, software, physical tools, documentation and schematics needed for repair to authorized repair providers or individuals. The legislation covers any digital electronics with a computer chip although cars, farm equipment, medical devices, solar power systems, and any heavy or industrial equipment that is not sold to consumers are exempt from the bill.

Google has made strides in making its Pixel phones easier to fix. The company enabled a Repair Mode for the phones last month allowing the protection of data on the device while it’s being serviced. There’s also a diagnostic feature that helps determine if your Pixel phone is working properly or not. That said, Google’s Pixel Watch is another story as the company said in October it will not provide parts to repair its smartwatch.

Apple jumped on the right-to-repair bandwagon back in October. The iPhone maker showed its support for a federal law to make it easier to repair its phones after years of being a staunch opponent.

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The right-to-repair movement continues to gain steam as another big tech company shows its support for letting people fix their own broken devices.

Google endorsed an Oregon right-to-repair legislation Thursday calling it a “common sense repair bill” and saying it would be a “win for consumers.” This marks the first time the Android phone maker has officially backed any right-to-repair law.

The legislation covers any digital electronics with a computer chip although cars, farm equipment, medical devices, solar power systems, and any heavy or industrial equipment that is not sold to consumers are exempt from the bill.

The company enabled a Repair Mode for the phones last month allowing the protection of data on the device while it’s being serviced.

That said, Google’s Pixel Watch is another story as the company said in October it will not provide parts to repair its smartwatch.

The iPhone maker showed its support for a federal law to make it easier to repair its phones after years of being a staunch opponent.


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Makes sense because google certainly doesn’t support their own shit lol

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It almost doesn’t even matter for Google products: I’ve had more Google products die due to lack of software support rather than any sort of hardware issue…

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Oof.

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As a former Pixelbook user, I agree 100%. A firmware update crippled my touchscreen, and the touchscreens of quite a few other users, from the look of their support forum.

Rather than investigate and issue a fix (which they haven’t in years, also according to their support form), they literally told me to buy a new laptop. WTF?

Well, I sure did. I got a Framework. Now I can fix it whenever I want with ease, and with every part readily available, too!

Thanks, Google!

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The constant multi-year tide of Pixel support and RMA horror stories helped push me into getting an iPhone

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The refusal to allow side loading is what really stops me doing the same

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I remember back in /r/Pixel on Reddit that Google had a mid tier or higher customer service rep in the subreddit. Why? Because their regular customer service sucked so bad they needed someone in /r/Pixel to do damage control. If a person wasn’t in the subreddit, they’d basically be left twisting in the wind.

I had my OG Pixel XL get compromised and my Google account stolen. Asking to get it back was basically “Fill out this form and we might get back to you at some point. You won’t receive any communications from us except to tell you your account has been recovered. And there’s no way for you to talk to a real human.”

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i’m just gonna leave this here:

https://youtu.be/rV5bBSZX00E

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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TLDW: They are basically advocating for selling assemblies of parts for “user safety”. So for example, if one chip on a motherboard was broken, instead of selling the individual part, they want to sell you the entire board with all the other parts attached (which can cost nearly as much as the device was new).
Video also highlights how you can buy a device cheaper than the cost of buying a genuine part from the manufacturer.

Google are grabbing good PR headlines with backing one complaint point in the right to repair scene, but then also backing a bunch of anti-repairability in the rest of their post, neatly snuggled away in a bunch of corpo talk bullshittery.

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I mean it’s better than nothing. Hopefully it leads to more economical repair kits. On a personal note, of the repair required soldering chips onto/off the board I would much rather buy a working board then try to replace a single chip.

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Sure, but most people wouldn’t even want to attempt a board replacement and would rather take it to a repair shop. Replacing an entire section of a device because one tiny part is broken is not helping the e-waste problem repairability is trying to work on.

These companies just want to upsell you to a new device, they want to group parts into assemblies to increase the price, and if the repair is going to cost just a small amount less than buying a new device, people are likely just to buy a new one, now that old device becomes e-waste and the company made a sale. Instead of it being a cheap repair, keeping that device going for as long as possible.

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yeah, you basically need to be a pro at reflow soldering. but that’s the thing about independent shops, they’re willing to put in the extra work to be as economical as possible. ends up being cheaper as well.

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would much rather buy a working board then try to replace a single chip.

That’s perfectly fine for you, but I do own a hot air rework station, so give me the option.

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“buzzword, buzzword, buzzword, anyway consume product. don’t worry about how we group unreliable parts in with the expensive ones.”

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That was my sentiment exactly. The benefits of being able to buy parts to fix a device is more muted when the replacement part cost the same as a buying an entire used phone. Maybe I’m in the dark, but the cost of screens feels inflated and like a deterrent to fixing devices, in spite of it being likely the leading reason for repairs.

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I’m just gonna not click the random link you left here with zero explanation.

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It’s Rossmann. It doesn’t need an explanation.

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What’s the opposite of slander, propaganda?

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Well, slander tends to be fictitious, so its inverse would just be facts that paint someone in a positive light.

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Google doesn’t really sell phones, this is just a cheap way to match Apple.

You don’t see them backing open access anywhere else. In fact, they’re trying to lock down all the client software to stymie ad blockers.

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So I don’t own a pixel?

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It’s a very small part of the total Android market.

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And your point here?

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They make the pixel, but they don’t make phones.

I’m confus

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…match Apple? I think you’re confused.

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Apple recently dropped their longstanding opposition against right to repair.

I think they saw the writing on the wall in the EU.

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They absolutely have not. They have, however, pretended to do so on numerous occasions. It’s a fucking bamboozle every time.

When I see original OEM components available on Apple’s websites, and the option to download software to register/calibrate the new components, I’ll eat my fucking hat.

Until then, Apple can lick my balls.

E: turns out this person was correct, though not in the way they thought, but because Google is also doing a bamboozle.

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Their components are still software locked. Regardless of which way you take, if you want to do it correctly, you gotta go through apple.

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They made a big deal of being the first manufacturer to officially offer parts through ifixit, but a replacement kit for the internal display on the Pixel Fold is over $900 USD. It’s almost the same price as a brand new 512 GB Pixel 8 Pro, but that will have a warranty and is guaranteed to be waterproof, unlike a repaired phone.

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Got any non-folding examples? I’m not surprised to hear a low volume folding screen is $$$.

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The 8 pro screen kit is $236 which is lot more reasonable. I just have a hard time believing the inner screen is really half the cost of the phone. I imagine supply is tight and they want to keep people from buying all of them to flip on ebay for like double the price.

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I guess the pixel I’m currently typing on doesn’t exist.

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They have a ~0,7% market share.

Still a lot of phones though.

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Aren’t they like the only company that actually saw in increase in phones sold?

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