Calling Germany the 3rd best for digital nomads is the biggest indicator that this list can go directly into the garbage.

Yeah lmao our laws regarding the internet are utter bogshit. And I don’t mean censorship. We straight up have outdated copyright and usage laws made by geriatric old politicians who have no internet understanding

Also, your broadband and mobile network is also pretty bad as far as Europe goes, especially compared to all your neighbours.

Our mobile contracts are a joke and absolutely unusable unless one pays absurd prices. And even then our “Unlimited” plans quickly get throttled into unusability.

It’s still “Neuland” ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Is digital nomad the new expat? Like we got a word for it: it’s immigrant.

Is digital nomad the new expat?

Kind of.

Think of it like a retiree trying to find a place to live where their salary isn’t tied to the local economy. It opens up a lot of places with a relatively low living expenses and high quality of life.

They are immigrants, but they are immigrants with money.

you forgot: “who don’t pay taxes in the country they live in” :picard:

To immigrate anywhere you need quite a bit of money so immigrants usually have money. Like the travel alone is quite costly, not to mention housing.

Immigrant is the word for poor not-white people, silly. White rich people are called eXpAtS, don’t you know?

Definitely agree. Digital immigrant, reflects the reality more

Immigrant suggests desire for permanent residence though.

Immigrant suggests desire for permanent residence though.

I’d rather say “long term” than permanent.
You can immigrate to a country, work there for 10 years, then emigrate again.

Most of the digital nomads I know end up settling somewhere at some point, moving around all the time gets tiring after a while

My understanding is that digital nomads are basically just long-term tourists rather than immigrants; they don’t get visas that allow permanent residency or anything. Iceland’s digital nomad visa, for example, only lets you stick around for 6 months, and you can’t renew it more than once a year. So you really do have to be somewhat nomadic, and travel to a different country.

I always thought it was about being Nomadic, so you’re constantly moving.

So more like a permanent tourist, who is just doing their working hours during the holiday.

One week here, two weeks there etc.

I work with people who do this, so I know it exists.

I’d actually argue against (at least Western and Northern) Europe for digital nomads, purely because you could move to somewhere in the developing world and live an incredibly comfortable lifestyle thanks to a much lower cost of living. Your mileage will vary based on what languages you speak, of course.

The developing world has the problem of being… well, developing though. And the dictatorships.

And people will see you are wealthy and try to trick or mug you.

Living in the developing world brings its own kind of issues, medical emergencies for instance, as well as the English proficiency around you (which is probably one of the reasons the top 3 countries are DK, DE and NL)

Germany has a low English proficiency, tho. Or did it change?

Ju meight häf tu diehl whiz ze akzent, but owerall itsch not tu bäd ei sink. :)

Probably region dependent, but the cliche seems to be that when asked, Germans say “they don’t speak English very well”, while actually having a quite good level (based on what visiting English speakers say, anyway)

Ah yes lets exploit poverty

There are some places of value there.

Portugal is really cheap and had programs to bring in digital nomads. Berlin has a relatively low cost of living for Germany with decent amenities.

The split between developing and developed has dissolved.

Berlin and low cost of living… Where did you get that information from?

Berlin can be good value once you’re settled. The problem is usually finding a decent apartment, not paying for it.

Compared to the rest of Western Europe it is.

Portugal is (far) eastern europe.

Did you mean western?

No, stay away from Europe, we don’t want you, our real estate prices are already sky high compared to the median wages. So don’t come here!

Some countries really messed up their market, such as Portugal and their golden visa

Yeah my Portuguese friends have said the same. Many cant afford to buy in their own areas anymore.

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