Teams also doesn’t support multiple “work” accounts, so I had to boot up a laptop to accept the call. 🤷

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Well they are just lying, it works fine with Firefox and has worked fine for years. I live in the EU though. Sucks to be american these days, I guess?

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These days? It’s sucked to be an American for decades.

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Better than being in a third world country ig. But it’s frustrating, because our issues are generally fueled by greed and were entirely preventable

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As I saw somebody once say, “The US is a 3rd world country in a Prada belt.” If we didn’t have that big chunk of post-WW2 money keeping our economy chugging along all these years, we probably wouldn’t look all that different from them.

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When you have to compare yourself to a “third world country” to feel not so bad it’s not a compliment.

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I have the same issue, but I am also in the EU. however, I just used an extension to spoof my user agent and now it works fine. there is some weird behavior sometimes, like when I call someone it doesn’t actually ring the other person etc.

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Used it today using Firefox on OSX, no issues whatsoever.

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EU resident here, doesn’t work for me as well

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Same for me, tried it today and it worked perfectly

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What the hell does it have to do with being American?

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Certain restrictions related to Microsoft Edge are applied less in the EU

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This isnt Hexbear man, wrong instance.

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But we’re good with Eat the Rich, right?

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Just one more upside to Firefox, less interruptions during work~

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Its cool how all these companies are allowed to just lie to you about their products functionality.

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If you use Firefox, you are a communist; and if you are a communist why would you need the glorious tools of corporate communication? Just make do with rotten turnips as Lenin intended

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This whooshed a lot o’ folks.

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Conversely, I should maybe try to use the /s thingy and stop thinking people can read my mind. Will I learn this lesson today? Hmmm

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Using Firefox makes you a communist?? Maybe you just enjoying have your data harvested by Google.

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Looks like your sarcasm detector is broken. Just like Teams.

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Sorry if this was not clear, but it was only a joke. I assure you, I only subscribe to first-quality ideologies.

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Yeah I’m more referring to sites that do this ans then work perfectly fine once the user agent reads some brand of chromium. The only serious offender I deal with on a weekly basis is Apple Business Manager.

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This team block is so agressive to firefox users that it’s literaly hardcoded as if web browser firefox then deny.

You cam override that by changing a parameter in firefox to advertise itself as another we browser. I don’t remeber how i did it but, once i had to use firefox and i just changed that stting in order to advertise me to the host as a edge browser. With that changed i could use teams as normal.

Epic drm.

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When I’d search “(location) weather” on Google (e: in Chrome) and I’d get a really nice at a glance forecast right on top. Do the same thing in Firefox and I’d get a whole bunch of weather websites I could go to. The former obviously being a better, more direct experience. I found an extension that fools Google into thinking it’s Chrome and all works fine with that.

I’m amazed if this doesn’t violate some antitrust regulation

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Just checked: Duck Duck go displays the forecast right on top.

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My main problem with this is getting amp links in the results after.

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They do worse than this. Search it on a weather site, pretty easy to get around

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Got a name for that chrome spoofing add on for FF on a PC by chance?

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UserAgentSwitcher has been the gold standard for like 20 years.

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The intangible sloth who replied to me provided a link to the one I use

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User agent string.

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This is not mildly infuriating this is the free internet being eroded through Google’s control of Chrome

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I think this is more a push towards tightly couplings with Edge.

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No it seriously means the feature isn’t available yet in the browser. Like there is a part of Firefox missing that they need to use the website. Basically all websites are coded in HTML, css, and js or a form of that. The browser controls them and the code operates out of it. If a feature is on chrome and chromium but not Firefox, the site won’t work on Firefox. Not sure exactly what is missing but it is mozillas fault not Microsoft.

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Google meets and zoom work perfectly well in firefox, this is just ms stuff

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You clearly don’t fully understand what I’m talking about but that is unrelated since they don’t have to use the features they implement.

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Firefox implements everything the various web standards require. There are a few non standard features that Chromium implements that certain websites take advantage of, but the fact that their code isn’t portable is not Firefox’s fault. As for Teams… Microsoft’s just being a dick: if you change the user agent it works just fine.

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And maybe Microsoft requires it. Also the could be more under the surface we don’t know about with the user agent, where it might have some kind of security exploit or something.

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MS purposefully not respecting the standards for its softwares to only work on their own browsers is a feature since they made Internet Explorer. It’s an industrial strategy to trap the users into their own tools. It’s to the point they don’t respect even their own standards in the case of docx for example so that there is no easy interoperability with libreoffice.

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I agree with you that the real reason for it is EEE but their justification for it is that for enterprise and corporate customers, the only ones they care about, they can’t control Firefox in the same was as they can Edge or Chrome with the Microsoft Account add in which allows the MDM agents like InTune to apply DRM. Their primary concern (so they claim) is the enterprise administrators ability to control the computer, provide settings, configure defender xdr security and all the other bs products they sell.

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That remark, while truthful a long time ago, didn’t really apply during the later periods of IE, or the early periods of Edge before it became a webkit clone. When it needed to win back users, there was a lot of focus on standardization, meaning that when I worked on sites, I tested them through MDN Docs, and in Firefox and IE first, made sure my solutions were not using any -webkit- nonsense, and then they would be fine on other browsers. Anytime I did find IE bugs late in its life, it was usually because some other browser coder was not correctly following standards.

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It used to work months ago. I’d try switching the user agent to spoof Chrome.

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This may open a security exploit or something, I don’t recommend it.

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They support meetings in Firefox so it’s a bit weird why they would block calls… They’re effectively the same thing

Additionally, if you change your userAgent to be Chrome things are working pretty good in Firefox as far as I’ve tried it (not too extensively)

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But that could open a security exploit, for example letting other users take your IP and use it within the call to perform a ddos or other kind of attack on your system. They could have been trying to fix that.

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Last time this came up, just spoofing the Firefox user agent to Chrome made it work perfectly. Maybe they block it because they haven’t tested it on Firefox yet, but it works as well as it does in Chrome.

And if they haven’t had the time to validate it in Firefox yet, that is a conscious choice by MS to not dedicate time specifically to validating in Firefox and treating it as a second-class web browser.

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