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Do NOT call prageru a “university”.

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Beat me to it lol. Recognized the art style immediately.

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the title is from he article— I didn’t pick it! (Rule 1)

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Would simply changing conservative university to PragerU not be more context/more descriptive? I can’t even see it being called editorializing if it’s more accurate.

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I don’t understand PragerU… they put out all of this fascist propaganda, but they still have this video up on their YouTube channel that spells out in no uncertain terms that the cause of the civil war was slavery and the south’s want to defend a “morally repugnant institution”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcy7qV-BGF4

Is this just the one thing they keep out there to point at and say that they’re “fair and balanced”?

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=pcy7qV-BGF4

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They just sell content to education institutions, nothing more, nothing less. They don’t care what that content is for or against, only that someone finds it valuable. It’s not about being “fair and balanced”; it’s about playing both sides to make as much money as possible.

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9 points

I mean their founder guy or whoever did a rant about how it’s ok for siblings to fuck and that inbreeding isn’t real, just to give you an idea of what kind of people they actually are…

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That’s the video they point at when they say the Democratic Party was the party of slavery.

They’re just hypocrites.

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Historically, it was the democratic party pre 1960s that were the defenders of slavery. Lincoln was a Republican at the time of the Emancipation Proclamation, and the ideologies basically switched around the time of the Civil Rights Act.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

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7 points

“Did you know that Lincoln was a Republican?”

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Damn, PragerU was a different place 8 years ago.

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Honestly Youtube sucks. I get flagged for “supporting criminal gang activity” because I had a video about Randy Stair that didn’t even paint him in a positive light, most youtubers have to say “unalive” because mentioning death gets them demonetized yet PragerU can just straight up say we need to re-enslave black people and the response is “aww shucks”

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The problem is that social media companies have completely capitulated to fascists, with absolutely zero attempt to put up a fight.

Everyone knows, and I mean literally everyone, that if the rules were enforces fairly on social media then something like 60% of conservatives would have to be banned. They regularly say things that are openly racist, sexist, and incite violence on the reg.

But social media companies only care about money, and to make money they want as many people as possible to show up. So while they know these cesspools exist on their platforms where people say the most heinous shit imagineable, they tolerate it because it makes them money and avoids the big fascist rage party if they fairly enforced their rules.

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Prager is to “University” as North Korean is to “Democratic People’s Republic”

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I fucking knew it… Read the headline and came to the comments thinking “it’s definitely that shithole PragerU isn’t it…”

Conservatives LOVE projection and they use their victim complex as ammunition. “Libz own the colleges and indoctrinate our youth so it’s totally fine now to have our own propaganda university teaching real history!”

I hate PragerU so much…

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Yeah - they don’t seem to understand that there is a massive difference between “having biases” and “being biased.” It’s how they’ve excused the purposeful slant of FoxNews all these years.

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It’s a goddamn pasta sauce.

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Shouldnt it be illegal for them to call themselves a university? Its kinda like if i would call my hypotetical tea shop a hospital

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62 points

Disgusting. They won’t be happy until slavery is brought back.

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It is back via convicts and our prison system

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That implies it ever left. The 13th amendment “outlawed” except as punishment for crime. Guess how many new laws and crimes were invented after that amendment was created.

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17 points

Correct: It never really left.

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It also really highlights how big selective enforcement is in this country, and puts that higher arrest rate for black suspects into perspective.

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And the thing of it is, the white conservative racists want slavery back because they think it’ll apply to black people. But little do they realize that big capital wants slavery back, too, and big capital will be all to happy put everyone into slavery, including white conservatives.

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They’re all too happy to point out that white people were slaves too elsewhere in the world so that makes our slavery somehow not racist… They’ll then hold these same beliefs as you state.

Ignorance really is bliss huh…

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Also ignoring that the various types of “white slavery” were in fact very different than the chattel slavery employed against African people. The kind of slavery we practiced in America treated (black) people as literal property. Including their own children, who could be born into slavery.

I’m not sure ignorance is the right word. “Willful disingenuity” is what leaps to my mind, but that doesn’t roll off the tongue quite as easily.

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They want the working class working for slave wages.

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Bold of you to assume they want the working class to have any wages at all. Remember spending scrip at the company store?

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5 points

You move 16 tons and what do you get…

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2 points

Slave wages? Wages? Haha good one

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It’s not racist if they’re fine enslaving white people too!

How I imagine the defense of slavery will be proffered.

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It’s already what they argue. They argue that slavery was world wide and of every race so it’s not racist and it’s totally ok that we once had it…

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That doesn’t change the fact that American slavery was one of the worst slavery businesses ever (and the bar is pretty low), hand in hand with the Arab slave trade

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This is unhelpful - they do not. What they do want is to minimize it and its impact so that they don’t have to feel bad. They’re trying to square “I love America” with “America has done awful things.” And it leads them to diminishing the latter to preserve the former.

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I think this article( and by extension you guys) are misrepresenting the pragerU clip. All its said was at the time, slavery was prevalent across the globe and it was “no big deal” for their societies of their time.

Who is to say that we arent going to look back and treat the prison system the same way or we would classify terminal online as slavery to corporations. Obviously slavery was inhumane but the people at the time didnt see it that way.

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A large number of people did see it as inhumane.

Also, right before that part they further normalize slavery, which often involved intermittent torture to keep them in line:

Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no?

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I think it was quite a big deal to the slaves, even at the time.

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And also for the kingdoms that relied on selling them to stay afloat. They all ended up falling in the 19th century

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Obviously slavery was inhumane but the people at the time didnt see it that way.

You can’t think of a segment of the population that did see it that way? The people who were enslaved, or abolitionists perhaps?

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I do not agree with your interpretation whatsoever, but to argue that slavery was “no big deal” at the time is also factually invalid.

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people who own slaves rarely think what they’re doing is wrong, especially because it benefits them so much. the slaves, on the other hand, rarely see it the same way.

abolitionist movements and slave revolts go back to Ancient Rome and before. Ever heard of Spartacus? wow…

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How do you feel about the fact that slave labor was most certainly involved in the production of your smart phone, somewhere along the supply chain?

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Oh look, the education system is already working as intended.

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No lol there were abolitionists before Columbus’s voyage. People have always been capable of grasping how evil it is. They intentionally chose to ignore that aspect of their perception to maximize their profits.

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Well, didn’t the clergy with a medieval mindset actually fight for natives’ rights? Think of Bartolomé de las Casas

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Why may it have been considered “no big deal” at the time?

Because the people who thought that way believed that the people being enslaved were literally sub-human.

So the question is still why is it relevant in any context whether slavery was considered acceptable at the time?

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It was normalised across the globe throughout human history. That is, I suppose, a valid point. Although I would say it’s a pretty big deal that it was normalised across the globe throughout human history. And of course, there’s more slaves today than there was during the entire period of the Atlantic slave trade, which is horrific and barely discussed.

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Slavery is still rampant worldwide and is involved in the production of many goods that end up on us soil. How do you feel about your smart phone and cheap gadgets?

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Is that seriously supposed to be some kind of “gotcha”?

Does that mean you believe slavery is morally justified, or did you type out that post from your typewriter? Gottem

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Child and marital rape were “no big deal” across the globe for thousands of years. Should we teach that to children as well?

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Well, if we want to contextualise some periods it should. Like, imagine someone told you 40 year olds married 14 year olds without giving you the context of the period

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Who is to say that we arent going to look back and treat the prison system the same way or we would classify terminal online as slavery to corporations.

Then I will accept that judgement. Why do we need to forgive the past for it’s wrongs just out of fear for being judged ourselves?

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Just to be clear, slavery is 100% legal in the United States if it is punishment for a crime. Read the 13th amendment. Many people already see the prison system as an abhorrent extension of slavery. Legally speaking, it literally is.

Also, Christopher Columbus was tried in Spain and imprisoned for his atrocities in America. There was never a point in time where slavery was unanimously accepted. Institutional racism was born because enslavement between two equal humans is so clearly wrong. Slavery was so clearly a big deal that one party needed to be dehumanized to justify it.

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No wonder US propaganda is a matter of study subject in schools in Europe

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What country is Europe?

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The one with the Eiffel tower

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Nah that’s the country of Paris, which is like right next to China, idiot

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Found the Floridian.

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Pretty fuckin’ stupid for that video to say that the US began the conversation on ending slavery when the Haitian revolution began in 1802.

You know, among all of the other fuckin’ stupid things in that video.

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It was famously already a well established argument by the time of the drafting of the US constitution. The southern states were deathly afraid their ability to keep slaves would be taken away, which was basically the entire driving motivation behind almost everything they did.

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facts obviously don’t matter to these people

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