186 points

“Choosing” is doing some heavy lifting here when gen-z ain’t got no money.

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106 points

Just like us millennials ‘choosing’ not to buy houses.

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@ItsAFake @davel Funny how the failure of capitalism is causing people to “choose” not to follow the overconsumptive lifestyle patterns the capitalists insist we must aspire to. A failed system will fall apart one way or another, even if it has convinced most people not to want it to fail.

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-34 points

Got any better systems?

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32 points

News in UK today said car insurance for young drivers is now £3000 a year on average ($4000USD)

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8 points

What? That’s in no way sustainable.

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16 points

Exactly the point of this post

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23 points

Prepare for the next headline saying that “Gen Z is killing the car industry”.

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2 points

And we’ll savour the kill 🔪

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1 point

You speak of “heavy lifting” without reading the article explaining in part how the economy may be impacting these choices.

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25 points

Choosing not to drive then is an incorrect headline whereas unable to afford driving would be more accurate.

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Agreed. Moreover, I’d like some more insight in the consumer patterns of Gen Z. A pie chart would be nice including groups like eduction, healthcare, subscription services, entertainment, etc.

I have a feeling, without the data, that a lot of young people are spending way more on novelty and entertainment things than ever before while they’re complaining about not being able to afford things.

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I guess you can check the median age of people getting their driving license first time. If is getting higher, is probably because younger people don’t care enough to get it, because past generations couldn’t afford cars ar 16 neither.

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What do you mean? I know plenty of people who worked service jobs and bought cheap used cars in high school.

It just isn’t as feasible now.

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2 points

Ok, I get you. I love in latinamerica and was using my experience as the standard, when here is a more American/European centric site where experience may vary.

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91 points

Now hopefully they start voting in their local elections for politicians who will build transit, bike lanes, and support walkability.

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We had a really promising, progressive city councillor run for Mayor who basically tanked their campaign by making investment in cycling infrastructure one of their main platforms.

So, instead, we got a business-as-usual developper friendly mayor who will continue to do nothing to address public transit issues, or improvr cycling infrastructure besides painting a few lines on busy roads.

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I think the major issue is that most people see bike lanes as removing their choice to drive, rather than adding alternatives to make driving easier. These people pushing for change need to look at the MAYA principal principle, meaning they use the Most Advanced, Yet Acceptable vocabulary to ease in the transition.

Anyone who wants to platform for biking and making better urbanism needs to instead focus their campaign on being fiscally responsible and tackling traffic concerns. If pressed, they can say that there are lots of data showing that small, cheap changes to the road infrastructure can make a large impact in both traffics and taxes.

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1 point

Principal?

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4 points

It is sad but many who want this kind of change end up having their careers ruined as it goes against “the status quo” and the “character of the neighbourhood”

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54 points

Because it’s expensive and sucks if you live in a city. Also, most can’t afford a house out in the suburbs anyways.

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51 points

I and my brother did some math about cars.

We both work and have money for car but just insurance, technical and emissions control… is more expensive than public transport ticket (for one year in our city). And we didn’t count in petrol and parking.

In short for us it just doesn’t make economical sense to own one.

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according to McKinsey. “And for those Gen Zers who decide that driving just isn’t for them, they can keep themselves busy with TikTok in the passenger seat—or get behind the wheel in the metaverse.”

Be a good consumer and accept our thought control.

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Who the fuck gets “behind the wheel in the metaverse”?

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@loutr @Phoenix3875 “get behind the wheel in the metaverse” a phrase used by the utterly deranged

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Great question - but semi related, I really enjoy sim racing despite rarely driving a car in real life (maybe once a fortnight).

The metaverse doesn’t appeal to me, or most people, but there’s something to be said about jumping in VR and taking a car to a track virtually with a good force feedback wheel, nice load cell pedals and a H-pattern shifter.

Heck I even enjoy euro truck simulator from time to time.

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4 points

Mark Zucc, maybe a few investors’ kids

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The ‘Get Behind the wheel in the metaverse’ proves this article is absolute garbage, and just a fluff piece for Zuc the Cuck.

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