88 points

The Republicans have been playing by the nazi playbook for a long time now.

Nazis didn’t start with the Jews. They knew they couldn’t get away with rounding up an entire ethnic group. They started with the LGBTQ community. They dehumanized lgbtq people in the eyes of the public and made it seem like they were doing it for the good of a pure and powerful Germany. When that worked they realized how easy it was to dehumanize an entire population in the eyes of the public and used the same tactics against Jews, Roma etc.

When you think about it the lgbtq community is the first line of defence protecting democracy because they are the most vulnerable and easiest to demonize. Once it’s ok to eradicate one group of people it becomes so much easier to do the same to larger groups.

It won’t stop at lgbtq people, they will keep eradicating every minority until they’re actually stopped by force. So far they’ve gone after trans people, gay marriage, women’s reproductive rights and have even talked about overturning Loving vs Virginia. Their goal is a straight, white, “Christian” male utopia.

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40 points

Not just the LGBT+ community, the trans community in specific.

https://forward.com/culture/549587/trans-book-burning-library-gay-pride/

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27 points

Might be obvious, but just to underscore it - if a conservative ever starts spouting nonsense about how “there wasn’t no transgenders when we was kids” - yes there were, they just didn’t know, and things like this are why

Also, just to put this research in some historical perspective - when this institute first opened its doors, we hadn’t figured out insulin yet and the best treatment doctors had for diabetics was restrictive diets that ended up starving patients to death as often as not. Like, if those research institutes has gotten firebombed repeatedly over the years, a lot more of society would probably find the notion of people who can’t eat sugar strange.

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Might be obvious, but just to underscore it - if a conservative ever starts spouting nonsense about how “there wasn’t no transgenders when we was kids” - yes there were, they just didn’t know, and things like this are why

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19 points

The saddest part is this trick has been working on humans for thousands of years. Is the issue the types who spin things this way, or the rest of us who fall for it? Seems like a human tragic flaw.

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I’m starting to believe that human nature just always tends toward fascist tendencies. It’s a constant battle against this shit, and it’s exhausting. Then every ~100 years or so, the people who fought against it last die out, and everyone forgets what fascism does to a nation and the cycle repeats.

I’m tired.

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Studies of authoritarian personalities (specifically, authoritarian followers: the kind who show up to Trump’s rallies to cheer, not Trump himself) show that there is probably a genetic component to this and dealing with these people is probably always going to be a struggle for humanity.

However: it’s probably more that the tendency is genetic. Exposure to novelty and life experience (or generally: lack of those things) are big factors in terms of someone actually adopting these ideas

Unfortunately it’s not a field that gets a huge amount of study.

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3 points

Human lifespans are short and most humans need to learn lessons firsthand. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a cyclical pattern for humanity. Hell, the Roman Republic was founded by a hard working group of people that wanted to escape the tyranny of the Etruscan kings that dominated the region. And Rome was hijacked by a tyranical emperor in the end, leading to a slow decline over the years.

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8 points

the poem starts “first they came for the communists”

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10 points

LGBT and communists were attacked at around the same time based on my knowledge of events, but is it really a surprise that the LGBT would be excluded from recognition based on the dominate cultures of the time?

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It depends on how you count.

Germany went through a Communist revolution immediately after (and a little bit during) WW1. The Communists won and took over Germany, getting rid of the monarchy. The far right in Germany went fucking wild with rage, a level of anger that really has no parallel in the modern US, and “cleansed” Germany. The Weimar Republic was formed roughly in the wake of that.

But that wasn’t the Nazis, though many of the people involved in that did go on to become Nazis.

The Nazis did sorta go after queer, and specifically transgender, people first. (And “degenerate art”!)

The Weimar Republic, for its many, many, many faults (seriously here it’s hard to overstate) did grow out of a Communist revolution even if it betrayed that revolution. They were actually issuing permits for people to live their lives as a different gender, similar to our modern conception of getting your paperwork changed in the US. One of the first things the Nazis did when they took over was to strike those permits down. (Or simply prosecute the people who held them. Or simply straight up murder them.)

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is it really a surprise that the LGBT would be excluded from recognition based on the dominate cultures of the time?

I don’t know what this is supposed to mean

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5 points

Do you think Pastor Neimoller would have a problem with them coming for the trans people?

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1 point

he didn’t have a problem with any of it.

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6 points

Their goal is power.

Being Christian, white, straight, and/or male is just a means to an end.

If they have to collectively suck the cocks of a bunch of gay guys if it will give them power, they’ll do it and then execute them saying they were tricked.

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4 points

I’m sure they would suck dick voluntarily.

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Pretty sick isn’t it? Especially when you consider in their straight white Christian male utopia they will still be the underclass to the 1% of people who control more than half of the world’s wealth. So you kill a bunch of innocent people and your still a poor racist scumbag piece of shit. Nice.

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3 points

they might even go for left handed people!

i’m left handed! fuck!

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And here we are watching a spike in Antisemitism and a push for laws that strip trans people of their ability to lead their lives.

History repeats itself, we’ve just become too stupid to read the history books and get our information from tik tok now.

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40 points

and yet people will still say both sides are the same

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For most things, yes. This is absolutely not one of them.

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22 points

Yeah the Republicans want to drag me out into the street, murder me, and then drag my corpse through the town behind their Dodge Ram 1500 or Ford F150.

Democrats don’t like that and would prefer Republicans not do it, but most of them won’t do anything to stop it as long as they’re not forced to watch it happen and can pretend it’s not happening.

A real, but grotesque, difference.

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Democrats don’t like that and would prefer Republicans not do it, but most of them won’t do anything to stop it as long as they’re not forced to watch it happen and can pretend it’s not happening.

That doesn’t sound like the Democrats I know! They would post a comment on social media about how sad they are about it and then say “vote blue, no matter who!” before defending some softer form of transphobia as a middle ground.

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Whoa hell no, I’d stop the fuck outta that, at step 1. Who the fuck are you??

E: downvotes because you’re afraid to help? Aight then.

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29 points

Transfolks: Be sure to get your passport squared away. Just in case we gotta jump ship.

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10 points

Apply for visas now. Pack your bug out bag and be ready to drive to Mexico on a moments notice. Better 10 years too early than a day too late

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I can’t believe we’re at this point, but yes. I’m close ish to the Canadian border and I’m a homeowner making good money but the minute I can’t get hormones I’m gone. Never thought I’d have to live with this kind of anxiety in the US.

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Keep in mind Mexico has far laxer border security especially if crossing by land (they didn’t even check my passport). So don’t get discouraged if Canada turns you away, though there is a slight language barrier with Mexico (nothing translator apps can’t handle, and a lot of the words are the same due to the etymology)

Personality I’m already out bc I figure the US is just going to gradually get worse and I’d much rather apply for a visa than asylum

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2 points

people should look into expats as well as that is a good place to start

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27 points

Fascism always needs a group to blame. Everything has to be someone else’s fault.

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26 points

Yep. And we are just as much of people as everyone else. Our elimination won’t be bloodless. And once they get a taste for blood they won’t stop and they’ll be harder to stop since their political violence is now established

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It’s LGBT now, hispanics later, black people much later, then probably just Democrats in general.

Anyone who isn’t white, Christian, and Republican isn’t welcome. And if you’re not a man, you’re not in control.

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2 points

Hope they like laser induced permanent blindness.

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