It’s wild.

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I would say people in countries with poor or non-existent public education are more prone. The USA’s public education system was eviscerated in the 70’s I think.

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I would say people in countries with poor or non-existent public education are more prone. The USA’s public education system was eviscerated in the 70’s I think.

As early as the 60s, but really the 80s. Through the 70s US had some of the best public education on the planet. The move to privatize education started in earnest under Reagan (in California, as governor), and then further under Reagan (and every president and congress to now).

Specifically:

• calling for an end to free tuition for state college and university students

• annually demanding 20 percent across-the-board cuts in higher education funding

• repeatedly slashing construction funds for state campuses

• engineering the firing of Clark Kerr, the highly respected president of the University of California

• declaring that the state “should not subsidize intellectual curiosity”

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ684842.pdf

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How the fuck do you come to the conclusion that you’re spending too much money on education

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Educated people tend to lean liberal and conservatives hate open minded people.

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With Reagan, it was because Republicans at the time thought there would be too many educated poor people. One of his advisors (Roger Freeman) said:

“We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat…That’s dynamite! We have to be selective on who we allow [to go to college]…If not, we will have a large number of highly trained and unemployed people.”

He was basically worried about a revolution because of it.

Source: https://theintercept.com/2022/08/25/student-loans-debt-reagan/

There’s other sources if you don’t like the Intercept.

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Easy

They are talking at the dinner table about doing things that are against my self interest. I don’t want those damn kids learning that. Therefore cut education

Rather that you know the market place of ideas that I espouse; as long as they match what I believe.

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R E A G A N.

The Trump era began by ripping out the solar panels on the White House and tricking blue collars into voting against themselves.

It was, and is, fucking awful.

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Just look at the GOP. They repeat garbage until their pawns believe it.

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Well, you see, it was educate 10,000 people or build another fighter jet.

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That last one hits hard. The state must subsidize intellectual curiosity. Intellectual curiosity gave us everything from electricity to modern governmental theory to the mathematics that would later turn out to allow wireless communications. Curiosity without a point is extremely valuable.

And it should be noted that even in late medieval Europe the state funded intellectual curiosity. The nobility were the state and many either were curious themselves or would patronize intellectuals

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And people look at that and say, sure, I’ll vote for this guy.

It’s a self perpetuating spiral to hell.

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By design. It’s a lot easier to fleece stupid people.

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Perfectly stated.

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No, we just have a larger presence on the internet relative to our share of the global population, meaning our idiocy is noticed a lot more often.

Call it the Florida Man effect, it’s not that other states don’t also have crazies, it’s just that Florida’s are more well documented and publicized.

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The Simple answer is No. Every country has its fair share of loud and dumb.

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The complicated answer is, the less education and the more propaganda, the more likely you are to believe dumb shit.

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Studies have found ( for example ) conspiracy thinking correlates with extremist political beliefs, especially right wing political beliefs, across countries. That linked study found the effect was strengthened by lack of political control.

So countries with more political extremists, especially far right wing in media platforms, leads to more popular conspiracy theories.

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We conclude that conspiracy mentality is associated with extreme left- and especially extreme right-wing beliefs, and that this non-linear relation may be strengthened by, but is not reducible to, deprivation of political control.

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To add to this, radicalism spreads thru a social contagion effect and requires repeated reinforcement, and social media acts as a catalyst. However, local organizing also plays a vital role in the spread far-right extremism.

Here is an article I have written on my blog detailing how people become radicalized. I have ads turned off and do not benefit in any way from my blog.

One important section I’d like to share here is for the false ‘both sides’ arguments:

  There is a stark difference in the means with which the two groups engage in acts of extremism. In a study evaluating Left-Wing and Right-Wing domestic extremism between 1994 and 2020, there was one fatality as the result of Left-Wing extremism, versus 329 fatalities resulting from Far Right extremism in that 25 year period. [5]

   The Far-Right movement is the oldest and most deadly form of domestic terrorism in the United States, and The Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism found that the Far-Right is responsible for 98% of extremist murders in the U.S. [24] Furthermore, for nearly every year since 2011, Far-Right terrorist attacks/plots have accounted for over half of all terror attacks/plots in the United States. [21]

   In the U.S., Right-Wing extremism was responsible for two-thirds of all failed, foiled, or successful terror attacks in 2019, and was responsible for 90% of attacks in the first half of 2020 alone. [21] Since 2013, Far-Right extremism has been responsible for more terror attacks/plots than the Left-Wing, ethnonationalism, or religiously motivated attacks/plots. [21]

References

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That was a really interesting read, thank you for sharing.

The blog comes across a lot more professional than expected, cheers

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That is the finest example of begging the question I have seen in years! It’s really rare to see in the wild.

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Oooh, could you expand on that? I’ve always had a tough time identifying begging the question and a real example would help.

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You are MOST welcome, it took me ages to make it click, this is the best example I have found:

  • How come the iPhone so popular?

  • Because it’s the hottest thing on the market right now.

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Eating Pork will slowly turn your heart inside out

Now I want to know what they think happens when it’s half-way inside out.

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