And also, it’s just not that they only want deportation, they also wanna lower minimum wage - less rights for workers and so on. Nobody with a brain should vote them or simmilar party’s in europe
Meanwhile, the AfD is trying to cast doubt on the number of people protesting with targeted disinformation via social media. Pathetic.
No idea where they got the 100,000 figure. There were several cities that had significantly more than that on their own. Munich had ~200,000 and Berlin had ~350,000 just to name two. Several cities were well into the tens of thousands too. The real number is more likely closer to a million people protesting throughout Germany this weekend. Additionally there were also protests during the week with tens of thousands of people joining.
It’s mostly the difference between police reported numbers and the ones from organizers. For Hamburg the police number is 50k, while the organizers said 160k for example. That’s why they wrote “more than 100k” everywhere. But I agree, that it’s really lowballing the extent of the demonstrations.
Still, even if we take just police numbers, Then bremen (45k) and hamburg (50k, massive lowball) already reach pretty much 100k. if you take into account all the other 20k+ demonstrations happening, and the other really big ones like berlin and munich, this isnt just a conservative estimate, its outright dishonest
Ah yes, protests! Famously capable of stopping evil people in their tracks. That’s why ww2 is a fictional tale!
It doesn’t stop evil people, but before these protests I thought this country was slowly drifting into the far right, like so many other European countries. Now I know that a million people are willing to go on he streets. Hell, even in my right wing city in Saxony ten thousand people went to the protests, this time not because of an anti fascist concert like last time.
Yes, I do think this can fight against fascists. We can start talking about what to do against them and why people feel the need to vote for the AfD and their likes, collectively.
Or we can just stay miserable like you
Ahh yes, that concert sure slowed them down.
They already know they’re a minority. Why are you assuming you are not a majority against them?
Everyone has such fucking pathetic responses to people who LITERALLY WANT TO KILL YOU if you’re not “normal”. You should already know those troglodytes are a minority.
It’s not the troglodytes, it’s not Sellner and Höcke and all the other nazis that are the problem. It’s these idiots who literally, LITERALLY, I’ve spoken to colleagues like that here in Chemnitz TODAY, think that these guys are overly demonized, that not everything the AfD is all right but maybe you can take some campaign points of them because they aren’t so unreasonable, that LITERALLY segway the conversation about the protests into how you can’t even call it Zigeuner Schnitzel anymore and that those protesters would have been fuming if they saw the menu of restaurant they were on that weekend. I guarantee you, they don’t know what these people were protesting against, but are so angry at the government that they ignore anything that would suggest that they are wrong and give in to their bigotry
I just want to know that there are more people that would go on the streets against the fascists than those blind sheep.
Thank you. I had this in mind as a reason, or maybe more as a hope.
before these protests I thought this country was slowly drifting into the far right, like so many other European countries. Now I know that a million people are willing to go on he streets. Hell, even in my right wing city in Saxony ten thousand people went to the protests
This is uplifting news! Thanks for sharing.
Good job, you burned that strawman to the ground e a s i l y.
Seriously though, no one believes this would solve everything. And it can still be one thing worth doing for other, smaller reasons.
But since you still have a very obvious point, why don’t you skip to the interesting part; how to do better? What’s your approach?
Nothing I could possibly say could alter the course of moronic humanity. You cannot even accept an obvious statement of fact without dejection and snark.
Humanity is too stupid to change its fate, and I am not above saying I told you so; at least I recognize saying it changes nothing just like protests change nothing.
Ah yes, the right way to fight fascism is to complain, that the world is shit and do nothing about it. That’s the spirit.
There are a lot of people, that fight against fascism daily, who are active in their communities and strive for a better world. The hopes of these people got crushed by the constant negative press and the climb of the right wing in election surveys. Now they see, that they have indeed a backing in the general population. Furthermore it was a huge AfD talking point, that they speak for the silent majority, which is why they attack the protests now by calling them fake or that the protestors were paid by the government.
It’s almost literally a reenactment by the AFD of what happened around the 1930s. It’s so fucked up.
But this is 2024 , so people should be more aware, and are protesting massively. Unfortunately, the resurgence of (forms of) fascism is a worldwide trend, and not an isolated phenomena.
Add: many people seem to be calling Fascistist “Nazis” nowadays. That’s so confusing to me, as if they don’t know that Nazism is a particular form of Fascism. While Fascism in all its varieties and guises should be the true denominator for trouble, and is the enemy of democracy.
Add: many people seem to be calling Fascistist “Nazis” nowadays. That’s so confusing to me, as if they don’t know that Nazism is a particular form of Fascism. While Fascism in all its varieties and guises should be the true denominator for trouble, and is the enemy of democracy.
The AfD has been taken over by literal Neo-Nazis that see themselves in the tradition of the NSDAP though, calling them that is correct.
The AfD has been taken over by literal Neo-Nazis that see themselves in the tradition of the NSDAP though, calling them that is correct.
For sure, they have been taken over by Neo Nazis.
But they aren’t the only ones being called Nazis nowadays. For example, the other day someone called Nentanyahu ( Israel) a “Nazi” .
That’s just confusing, considering what happened in WW2. If they’d brand him Fascist, it would be more correct .
It’s about the extreme violent racism of the Fascism in Israel.
At least in Europe, none of the variants of Fascism other than Nazisim ever engaged in the kind of widespread massacre of civilians from another etnic group whilst talking about them as untermenschen that you see being done in Israel (which before all this was already deeply racist about Palestinians and Arabs in general, but now went full-on Genocidal).
Whilst Netanyahu and his government haven’t gotten quite to the level of the original Nazis yet, they use similar propaganda techniques, display extreme racism towards Palestinians (calling them “human animals”, saying that “Palestinians are violent” - not Hamas, Palestinians - frequently claiming to want to expel or eliminate them and even suggesting nuking Gaza) and have already exceeded all other variants of Fascism in their violence in general and certainly in violence very specifically against civilians of another etnic group.
Saying Nazi instead of fascist is a distinction without a difference. All Nazis are fascist, but not all fascists are Nazis. Most people don’t even know fascism originated in Italy or got the name from the fasces Roman lictors carried while escorting senators and dictators. I think it’s ok if people are only able to recognize fascism as Nazism, because it all gets to the same idea, they are bad organizations that want to rule you and take away rights.
