Hey fellow lemmings, I’ve recently watched some documentries and read some articles that made me more aware of the existence of NSBM. I love metal, both the music and the culture but I don’t want to hear anything related to that specific scene.

I don’t want to dicuss the morality of the subject, I just wish to know how I can easily identify if a band I’m listening to is problematic.

I’m aware of Metallum, but that is not always reliable and easily accessible. I am also not able to detect the themes in the lyrics, tbh most of the time I can barely even understand what the vocalist is saying. Thank you all in advance

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Thankfully the only band I know from that list is Burzum, and he’s easy enough to just ignore at this point lol

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Wait, Adolfkult is nazi metal??

Damn, I’ve got some CDs to return…

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Want me to blow your mind? Ace of Bass is also a Nazi band.

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Thanks, this is a short list but at least it’s a good start

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Very glad I don’t see a single band I listen to on that list.

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One way is search for ‘band name + controversy’ or ‘band name + nazi’ or something similar. It becomes second nature after awhile.

Conversely, seek out non-problematic black metal - antifascist black metal is a thing.

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Yeah but that only works for bands that are popular enough that someone wrote an article about.

That sounds more to my taste haha, do you have any recommendations?

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Loads :) some of these are not explicitly anti-fascist but they’re non problematic.

  • Panopticon
  • Wolves In The Throne Room
  • Blackbraid
  • Dawn Ray’d
  • Iskra
  • The Infernal Sea
  • Azel’s Mountain
  • Mizmor
  • Gaerea
  • Nahasheol
  • Auld

There’s also the Anti Fascist Black Metal YouTube channel which showcases antifa black (and other) metal - gets lots of new releases.

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Thanks, I’ll make sure to check them out!

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This is a pretty decent list, usually my first look.

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Kind of biased, but whatever. Seems like the writer basically equates anything not leftist to be essentially nazi.

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Yeah, fair enough, it’s a decent enough starting point though IMO, obviously use your own judgement.

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Oh I remember seeing this list a while back, thanks for linking it!

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Not so sure - all they do is list explicitly leftist/anarchist bands and explicitly fash/nazi bands. Everyone in between should be considered safe (or maybe unknown). For example, Behemoth aren’t on either list, nor are Darkthrone or Rotting Christ or a shit load of other bands, therefore they must be OK.

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I mean, if you consider having members in the band with such ideologies enough to label it a NSBM band, then sure. I don’t agree with it, but whatever.

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Although I doubt this method will work today but what I used to do was google the band and wait until I found a link discussing the band on Stormfront, an old neo-Nazi forum. It was huge (by extremist standards) in the 2000s but it’s barely active these days.

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Sadly these groups have been around pretty much since black metal started. I usually just try to look up the bands bio. If they’re on Wikipedia it will usually say something about it. The lists others posted seem pretty helpful too

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Thanks, yeah that’s what I’ve been doing so far but I had to look up so many names before I gave up and tried looking for a more convenient way lol

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