Seriously, couldn’t they just extend the tube a bit so it overhangs the exhaust pipe???

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The entire comment section seems to be missing this is assholedesign and offering the same shitty solutions without addressing the asshole design…

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No, this is not asshole design. If the oil port was sticking further out, it’s gets knocked off if you lay the bike down. And then you have no oil at all, and a blown up motor.

It’s by good design the oil port is recessed. Yes it’s annoying to use a funnel, but it’s the preferable option.

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?? Oil port would only need to be extended by like 0.5" to clear that exhaust pipe, the casing to the left extends probably 1-2" from that. If you lay the bike down it that casing would stop the oil port from being touched. Shouldn’t be an issue.

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Honestly they sound like asshole engineers trying to justify their poor quality of work. Cardboard, tinfoil, and brake cleaner can’t excuse a poor design.

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At least the foil idea was someone who has to deal with a similar problem on a different bike.

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Does Lemmy have a “just rolled into the shop”? I would join instantly.

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Bump cause I’m also interested

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Make the exhaust curve back a bit? More expensive to make the part than having a straight pipe with just one bend.

Dent the exhaust? Affect flow, create hot spot right under the oil drain plug.

Expect people to be intelligent enough to put some cardboard or foil under the plug so they don’t spill oil on the exhaust? Idiots are complaining and posting their failure on the internet and blaming you.

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5 points

Extend the length of the drain plug by 1cm? Something something, profit.

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I personally don’t want any part of the engine casing sticking out during a crash, but maybe that’s just me.

This section isn’t on an easy to replace cover.

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58 points

All this mess could have been prevented with a little bit of cardboard between the drain and the exhaust, you realise that I hope.

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Smoldering cardboard doesn’t sound like a good idea.

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3 points

You don’t normally change oil with the engine running

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I’m talking about the sparklers I’m using for illumination

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Good luck lighting cardboard on fire with an exhaust

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All fire needs is heat, oxygen, and fuel. You’ve got all of that there.

The exhaust gets hot enough to burn off oil when it’s idling, so I’m sure it’s hot enough to burn cardboard.

I’m not going to risk it, the tinfoil idea sounds like the goer here.

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40 points

This is super common with motorcycles. The motor should be warm, but not ignite-the-oil hot during an oil change. Clean it up with some brake cleaner.

Use a piece of aluminum foil to make a little drain to direct the oil over the exhaust.

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I know that’s a solution, but as a solution to bad design it’s a little bit “Just wear a rubber glove to stop your oven electrocuting you”. Yeah sure, but maybe design it better?

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Do you have any idea how much the manufacturer saved in not extending the pipe tho?

Because I have no clue. Probably wurf rite

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What they actually probably saved was needing to design a whole separate engine case for each bike in their lineup to match all their exhaust configurations.

The idea of having a little pipe protruding out is a different kind of bad design. Things that poke out from engine cases tend to snag or get punched in during a crash, turning what would be some scrapes on the block into a completely totaled engine.

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A genuine question if you would like please, I know you meant warm oil for easy maneuvering (oil moves faster when warm/hot), but what about hot oil? Is it safe to change motorcycle oil after an hour or more ride when the oil might be toi hot?

A co-worker of mine tried adding water to his car reservoir after he just stopped from a long ride, the water was near boiling point and it blowed up on him the moment he opened tha water reservoir (not sure that is the correct name). Can such a thing happens with oil exchange?

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Oil doesn’t expand and steam like water, so no that won’t happen, but hot oil leads to very nasty burns and can melt gloves onto your hands. Most bikes run the oil around 200 degrees. So no it isn’t safe to change hot oil. Don’t do that.

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And, specifically because oil doesn’t boil at those temperatures, it can be at much higher temperature than water can be as a liquid.

We tend to have a mental model of how much damage water can do at its “max” temperature, because liquid water stops existing after a certain temp.

But oil can be so much hotter than that, and still just be a liquid. It’s dangerous in that way, because while a drop of water at near boiling can only do so much damage but a drop of oil can be holding a lot more heat and hence cook a lot more of your flesh before it runs equalizes with the surroundings

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2 points

No, you should just idle the bike until the temp gauge comes up. Should definitely not be after a long ride.

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Foil is a great idea, I’ll use that next time.

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Plus people know you mean business when you’ve got some foil.

Guy pulls over his car and brings out the the lug wrench, okay fine. He’s gonna change that tire. Let’s hope he doesn’t forget to chock the wheels, but he’s got the idea.

But you see a dude pullin reynolds wrap out of his bags next to a motorcycle on the off-ramp, that’s a serious dude. That’s the kind of dude you give that dude a burger when he walks by. That’s all I’m sayin.

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… I’m going to start carrying foil with me.

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20 points

Next time just rotate the bike 90° so the oil drains straight out and misses the exhaust. Problem solved!

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Alternatively redirecting gravity by 90° would also solve the problem, without the difficulty of needing to reposition the bite.

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Actually this sounds like an even better solution, I’ll let you know how it goes.

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Oh fuck, it’s so simple! Thanks man, this is the correct answer.

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Yeah my first though as well is the bike is probably supposed to be tipped when draining?

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Tipping it over could cause a drop, which could be costly to replace. And if you’re just holding it to one side. You’d need a second person to either hold it, or take the plug out.

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I bet the maintenance guide says to use a funnel or something ¯\(ツ)

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Nope.

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Quote: yeah, let’s blame the user for not fixing the manufacturer’s shitty design

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